That should have been:
"No mo' intergrity, just like an old time Solo-Vee salesman" with an S
Chuck
From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] A Little Additional History and an Equity Proposal
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:35:41 -0700
Aww, guys! This sounds expensive.
You mean I couldn't have done well at Nationals on my 3.5 year old tires
that I have been running this year at the Atwater and Denver Pros?
Maybe that is why my rubber was furring up more and chunking off more than
Larwence's up on the Denver concrete?
No mo' intergrity, just like an old time Solo-Vee saleman.
Chuck
From: Jim Libecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] A Little Additional History and an Equity Proposal
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:25:50 -0700 (PDT)
I won't do a big event without new tires. Last year I was near the bottom
of
the heap in all of the national tour events. Very frustrated. Couldn't
figure out why the car wouldn't turn. Lots of testing with no effect.
New
tires, win championship. Those tires that were frustrating me were only
two
months old with about 15minutes total time, maybe 20 heat cycles and they
were
terrible.
If you show up at Nationals without new tires, the car will be
about a second to two seconds at least slower.
Road racing is the same. New
tires=fast. At least two-three seconds on a used set with goodly amounts
of
rubber vs new.
jim
----- Original Message ----
From: John Whitling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006
11:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: [F500] A Little Additional History and an Equity
Proposal
YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No
way I'm putting 100 lbs of lead in my car for a bunch of lazy Vee
drivers. Our cars are the GCR legal cars. Go bastardize the the Vees
some
more.
BTW, at least all one new solo car is being built for FMod that uases a
440 with a weight break so don't give me the story that a 440 isn't
competitive either. And Bill, you cannot expect to compete with old tires.
Jan Schmidt wrote:
>I agree 100% with Jim on this one. It would cost about
$50 for lead and
>a couple of bolts. Make the 494's and 493's both weigh
900lbs and leave
>everyone else alone (vees and f440s). There was only 1 F440
in the
>trophies this year and that driver weighs about 130 lbs (lots of
ballast
>in that car). That f440 was the cleanest, most well built F440 I have
>seen in 3 years of playing with these cars.
>Bill Schmidt 88 Red Devil Kawi
>
>
>
>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/03/06 7:26 AM >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>Bobby,
>As one of the writers of the rules that established F Mod as a budget
>class, we based this class on BOTH the F440/500's AND the SV's while the
>FV's were the actual afterthought as they were deemed noncompetitive.
>Most
of our time was spent writing the SV part of the rules as we just
>said that
the F440/500's had to be GCR legal. Later, we found out that
>there was a
loophole in that the lighter Solo legal roll bar and chassis
>stucture could
also be used - examples of this are the Dave Phaneuf and
>Art Trier cars. Our
prime directive was and is the equity in HP/weight
>ratio of 10 lbs per HP
between the F440/500's and the SV. This resulted
>in the SV engine allowances
that would provide an output of roughly 100
>HP for their 1,000 lb minimum
weight. The AMW was the 500cc motor back
>then and produced with a good pipe
about 80 hp, so 800 lbs was a good
>minimum weight.
>Now the 494 with a good
pipe produces around 90 hp so do we raise the
>F500 weight up to 900 lbs to be
true to the prime directive of 10 lbs
>per HP? I propose that weight changes
be used to bring equity back
>between the SV's and the F440/500's because it
is the cheapest method of
>doing this and F Mod IS a budget class.
>
>Jim
>Been messing with these cars since 1982
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of type text/x-vcard which had a name of jwhit.vcf]
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