Class is not in jeopardy of losing national status, which is different than the 
Runoffs issue.  14 cars for sale is not unheard of, and is not an indicator of 
people leaving the class (ever heard of upgrading or buying a new car?)  We can 
absolutely grow the class without killing it in a misguided effort to turn it 
into a new class.
   
  1.  Run your car as much as possible if it's been sitting in the garage.
  2.  Buy a car and run it if you're on the fence or have been sitting out (my 
situation).
  3.  Promote the class based on what drew us to the class.
  4.  Rent your car to newbies whenever possible. 
   
  This is just a few ideas off the top of my head and there are plenty more 
that have been posted on this list, but they all assume that the person truly 
cares about the class.  I agree with Chuck - what is the motivation for someone 
new to the class, without the years of effort, friendships, and sweat invested 
in the class, who obviously doesn't understand ( or purposly refuses to 
understand) the demographic that the class appeals to, to want to reinvent the 
specs?  Is it truly for the long term benefit of the class, or is the 
motivation somewhere else?
   
  Cory 

Eric Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The class is not attracting many new owners, road racing participation is
down, National class status is in jeopardy, many cars are becoming autocross
only cars, 14 cars are for sale on the web page, and you guys want status
quo? What do you suggest to generate renewed interest in the class? How do
we save it? Any positive ideas or do we just stick around and wait for the
eulogy?

Sorry to come on so strong, but I hope there is a larger purpose to this
discussion than just spending money for performance, safety, etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Osenburg
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 5:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] Write the Shock Rule

Chuck,

I agree with you ! 

If you want something different - get into something different ! 

Gil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "McAbee, Chuck" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:56 PM
Subject: RE: [F500] Write the Shock Rule


> It has always amazed me how the newcomers to a class, any class in SCCA,
> always want to reinvent the class to their liking (so it will be
> 'easier' for them to win - since they have 'expertise' in the changes
> they want).
> 
> The hallmarks of F440/F500, since 1984 at least, have been -
> 
> 2 stroke, water cooled 440/500cc engine
> CVT Transmission
> Suspension medium = Elastomer 1" thick x 2" diameter
> 10 inch wheels
> 80" maximum wheelbase
> 55" maximum width
> 
> The basic concepts of the class have worked well for the past 22 years
> and I don't see any compelling reason for those hallmarks to be changed
> at this time. F500 is not 'just another Formula class' at present and
> if it were to become 'just another Formula class' it would become
> totally invisible in the plethora of the other Formula classes.
> 
> F500 is what it is!
> 
> The biggest bang for the buck in SCCA racing!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck McAbee
> SEDIV #16
> 
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