Bobby,
On Palmer, that would be great.
You need to get the city gov behind protecting it by not allowing housing
next to it to ensure its long term success.
Out here, the Mesa city gov has resricted new housing devlopment next to the
defunct Williams AFB. (Pristine super wide concrete runways (no frost out
here) big enough to land C-5's with room to spare.
They are doing that to protect the income to the city as
commercial/passenger air traffic increases there.
Chuck
From: "fmod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [F500] 2 stroke engines
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:26:20 -0500
Well the NER is only assured that we will have Deven's for 2007. After the
government turns most of the old Fort Deven's over to the town, they are
going to vote if they want to make it a township of it's own. We have been
told if that happens it will be developed! We heard a rumor one year that
only cars that could be driven to the event and had valid registrations
could run at the site. The state police have a motor pool there. They
band the shifter karts because they thought they were to fast with no roll
bars and seat belts. Are only hope is the track that the NER wants to
build at the old Palmer Airport which will be built with a lot big enough
for Solo II!
BobbyJ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Reinhardt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] 2 stroke engines
It looks like the debate shouldn't be 2 stroke vs 4 stroke, but if there
will be a place to race either????
I think Jay said something about wearing blinders???
CR
fmod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sure sounds like a great Solo II combo!
Thanks Chris
Also I am not trying to scare people, just passing on information that
everyone needs to hear!
Lack of knowledge and not sharing it is a dangerous thing!
BobbyJ
#5 Fmod NER SCCA
Also, Chuck is correct, by the time F500 goes to 4-stroke neither of us
will
most likely be driving one! Sure would be nice to go out on a Sunday and
see a Solo II event and see several Invaders, Arrows, Novakar, etc. racing
around with 4-stroke engines.
Not trying to start trouble by saying this, but many of the guys who drive
stock street cars with factory mufflers would love to see all the mod cars
go away, well at least in New England. Were starting to feel like the bad
boy motorcycle gang type because we still want to drive formula cars at
Solo
II Events!!!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Reinhardt"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] 2 stroke engines
Couple of key things in this thread please be aware.
Motocross aka the AMA does not "Mandate" 4 cycles, yes there are near
twice the displacement, but everybody knows the power pulse mathematics
from 4 to 2 stroke 1/2. The reason for the dominance of 4 cycles is the
fact that they are faster for a number of reasons. In a motocross bike
it's not about top speed or massive horse power, its corner to corner, or
corner to jump acceleration, and it's also about traction.
However there are lakes that "Mandate" 4 cycle or electric only...
CR
Richard Schmidt wrote:
Nice scare tactics - I thought Halloween was over !
----- Original Message -----
From: "fmod"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: [F500] 2 stroke engines
Was at the local Honda/Suzuki checking on see if the 2007 bike I ordered
was
in yet. Would like to ride it a little before the real bad weather.
I was talking to one of the owners, they also sell Yamaha and Bombardier
watercraft (summer cousins to snowmobile). We got talking about which
engines we currently use and he asked me what are you guys going to do
for
new
engines after 2008 when Bombardier is scheduled to stop making 2-Stroke
CVT
equipped Snowmobile's and all their models will by then be replaced with
4-Stroke CVT equipped engines. I said don't ask!
This is a rather small shop but they had almost every model of Honda and
Suzuki motorcycle. The only 2-stroke engine thing he had in the shop was
one
model of Yamaha Watercraft! Something to again think about. I would say
if
you go to a former NER f500 divers place of employment in Mass. where
they
sell many Bombardier Snowmobile's he would say the same thing.
Not trying to get people pissed off, but time waits for no man and time
is
flying by us! We are several years behind the curve.
Motocross is almost fully switched to 4-stroke bikes.
Only because it is mandated and your didn't mention that the 4-stroke
dirt
bikes have engines twice the displacment of the 2-strokes to be
competitive.
Watercraft and outboard motors are not far
behind!
Starting to talk about it without everyone blowing a fuse is the only
way
for
all you younger people to keep this class going. I and others are near
the
end of the game, but still care deeply about a class that has brought us
so
much fun and friendship for a reasonable price. Plus you can't put a
price
on
all the great people we have met in person or talked to on this site!
Everyone have a good and safe holiday season!
BobbyJ
#15 Fmod NER SCCA
PS: This is not about 4-stroke bike engines for our class. This is only
about thinking about 4-stroke CVT equipped Rotax Snowmobile Engines even
if
it
takes five (5) or more years of careful planning!
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