Hi Gary, >And yes, in 2006 Nardin was 10th - but he was 2.2 seconds back not 4.
Yes, you are correct. I mistyped. Sorry.:-( However, once again if I haven't said it before I'll say it now, we and every other autosports organization classifies cars not drivers. Nardin is a excellent driver, so are/were people like Ames, Babb, O'Donnell, Flier, Johnson, Thomas, Voboril, yourself, and the many others that have been past and present multiple national champions. If we classified drivers, these folks, as well as some of the other F Mod people on this list, would end up in A Mod because their skill set arguementally makes them dominant. Keep in mind that looking at the performance or abilities of one driver can't become the basis/focus of classifying the car. The focus would be much to narrow. And BTW, there are two sides to that coin. The MAC didn't alter the 440s because you and Chuck did so well in them, did we Gary? We looked at the engine's potential, not the noted abilities of the drivers. Looking back over the existence of the class, only a handful, a very small sprinkling of Vee drivers compared to us 2 cycle folks, have ever made it on stage to receive an award. This is not parity. Something needs to be done and we would like to be positive, rather then negative in our approach. And by that I mean, we do not believe that we should be adding weight or restricting the 500s utilizing other means. We would much prefer improving the capabilities of the slower car. Quite frankly, these proposed additions should have been spaced over the 24 years of Solo Vee existence and not done in one motion. But it wasn't and that doesn't mean it should never happen. Perhaps that is what makes it so overwhelming to folks. I don't know. All of this reference to Nardin is clouding the issue. I think we are losing focus here. The attention should be placed on what the proposal does or doesn't do for the population of Solo Vees, not on Nardin's or any other one driver's abilities. We need to be attentive to the facts, not emotion filled rhetoric of 145 HP super vees. As Chuck asked, check with VW engine builders but make sure you give them all the information :-). Can we ever make any two diverse type cars equal, probably not. But that is not the purpose of this exercise. It is to make the general populace of Vee drivers competitive with the 500s. The MAC feels that if "you" would really think about what has been offered, put everything into it's proper perspective, do some research with VW engine builders if necessary, you might come to a different conclusion then what I am seeing in this thread. >The new surface at HPT is the main reason he and the other Vee's were farther down in the results from past years at Nationals. Well, not really, but it certainly was the straw that broke the camels back ;-). The F500/Solo Vee inequity has been festering for years now, it just took the 2006 national to light the match. "We" flourish in our growth, yet "we" are afraid of change. You guys may look at Nardin, but we are looking at the class. Art -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GaryK Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [F500] Re: FM autocrosser alert Yeah, and I was 28th in 2005! :-( Rain!!!! Don't forget the rain that feel after the first drivers got their first runs in. The rain at the 2005 Nationals shook up the results. If you were the first of a two driver car or an only entrant in your car you had a good shot at a good run, because you then needed rain tires and those runs were slower. Nardin coned that run and in the rain got within approx. 3.5 seconds of Libecco's first run. On the second day here are the 3 fastest times: Libecco - 54.777 Nardin - 54.917 Kramar - 54.954 And yes, in 2006 Nardin was 10th - but he was 2.2 seconds back not 4. He also won in 2000 and has been a threat to win every year. The new surface at HPT is the main reason he and the other Vee's were farther down in the results from past years at Nationals. And why they are asking for these changes now. Nardin won the Peru tour last year (again?) over many top entrants. If you throw out Nardin from the equation, then the rule changes seem to be needed and should help them (if they do them). Nardin is a very good driver and he's proved that over the years in his Vee and when he ran in AM. He has been the benchmark for the Vee's to shoot for. And who I know will be there pushing me and has beaten me. Gary Kramar '89 FM F500 ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
