RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?

[mark robert]

From: cardemaister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Vedic Translation?   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, what do you suppose MMY would have to say about > Vedic passages like this? > > ---------------------------- > >  > > 9.034.03 They press the crushed Soma as it pours forth its juice > between the effusing stones, they milk out its juice by their > acts. > 9.034.04 The exhilarating Soma is to be cleansed (for the > sacrifice) of Trita, and for the drinking of Indra; the > green-tinted (juice) is mixed with the ingredients. [i.e., mixed > with curds and milk]. > 9.034.05 The son fof Pr.s'ni milk this Soma at the place of > sacrifice, the most beautiful and grateful oblation (to the > gods). > >  > > -Mark > vR^iShaa\'NaM\` vR^iSha\'bhir ya\`taM su\`nvanti\` soma\`m adri\'bhiH  |\\   du\`hanti\` shakma\'naa\` payaH\'  || \EN{9}{034}{03} \\ 3 With stones [adribhiH] they press [sunvanti] the Soma [somam] forth, the Strong [vRSaaNam] conducted [yatam] by the strong [vRSabhiH]: They milk [duhanti] the liquor [payaH] out with skill [shakmanaa].   bhuva\'t tri\`tasya\` marjyo\` bhuva\`d indraa\'ya matsa\`raH  |\\   saM ruu\`pair a\'jyate\` hariH\'  || \EN{9}{034}{04} \\ 4 'Tis he whom [bhuvat] Trita must [tritasya] refine [marjyaH] , 'tis he who shall [bhuvat] make Indra glad [indraaya matsaraH] The Tawny One [hariH] is decked [sam...ajyate] with tints [ruupaiH]   a\`bhiim [fearless??] R^i\`tasya\' vi\`ShTapaM\' duha\`te pR^ishni\'maataraH  |\\   caaru\' pri\`yata\'maM ha\`viH  || \EN{9}{034}{05} \\ 5 (Him do) the Sons of Prsni [pRshni-maataraH*] (him do) milk [duhate], the dwelling-place [viSTapam?] of sacrifice [Rtasya], Oblation [haviH] lovely [caaru] and most dear [priyatam]. *) "the pRshni-mothered ones"         --------------------   Cardemaister,   Thank-you for the alternate translation. Is it yours?   The original you kindly supplied looks different than the original supplied on the site. For example, you supplied: vR^iShaa\'NaM\` vR^iSha\'bhir ya\`taM su\`nvanti\` soma\`m adri\'bhiH  |\\   du\`hanti\` shakma\'naa\` payaH\'  || \EN{9}{034}{03} \\   But the site supplied: v&;a?[</ v&;?i-rœ y/t< su/NviNt/ saem/m! AiÔ?i-> , Ê/hiNt/ zKm?na/ py>? . 9 -034 -03   Of course I know nothing of Sanskrit, so maybe they are the same.   Anyway, I suppose that’s less important than my main interest in the real meaning - What the heck do you suppose they were crushing / pressing? Yes, I know it was Soma, but how does that jive with something that MMY says is internal? So, then my question becomes – If Soma was external, what was its identity?   -Mark   To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.