Comments and questions below: --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -> > > > You didn't answer my question. What is your > direct > > > personal experience with Punditji to come to > such a > > > conclusion? > > > -Peter > > If I had seen Mr. Shankar regularily for years, > would that make you > satisfied ? Why should I give you any details > whatsoever of my > experiences with Ravi Shankar ? Because you apparently have had no direct experience of him or his teaching and have come to a very negative conclusion. Your opinion appears to be based on TMO gossip and your own projections (But I could be wrong!). To know any teacher you must spend time with them and practice their teachings. For example, I can say nothing about Amma even though I saw her 17 years ago and got a hug from her. We have no dharma together. I don't experience the Divine in her. But this means nothing. For me to pass judgement on her and her teachings would be the height of arrogance. Obviously many see the Divine in her. I trust and believe their experience and know for them she is intimately involved with their awakening. Another example: a good friend of mine has seen Punditji several times and spent a day with him privately several years ago. For him, zero, nada, zilch. He said both he and I had more darshan than Punditji. Ha! He has no dharma with Punditji. I do and very clearly experience the Divine in him. It blows my mind. MMY did an excellent job as his guru. That being said, I do understand your comment about Punditji being a MMY clone (I'm sure he'd see this as a great compliment). When I first saw a tape of him I had the same reaction; I thought he was copying MMY. But as I got to experience him personally this rapidly changed. The Divine within him radiates just as powerfully as MMY, but his personality is very, very different. Much more laid-back and personal. > I do take it for granted though, that your comment > of Mr. Shankar > being Guru Dev was a joke. Absolutely not (But what it even means to say that Punditji is Guru Dev is something I don't understand). You have no idea who Punditji is if you haven't spent time with him. But it probably isn't your dharma to have a relationship with him. Your Divine comes in a different package. Different jug, same water. The divine in Guru Dev is the same in MMY and is the same in Punditji. These guys (along with all the other ones) are more than enlightened. They function as gurus. A guru is much more than enlightenment. -Peter > > > > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I've seen enough. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > And; Guru Dev is not yet in incarnation > though He > > >> > will be, hopefully > > >> > soon, as one of the most outstanding, > spotless and > > >> > evolved member of > > >> > the Hierarchy of the Masters of Wisdom, in > evolution > > >> > very close > > >> > indeed to the Master of Masters, Maitreya; > the > > >> > Christ, Buddha, Iman > > >> > Madhi, Krishna. > > >> > > > >> > The Masters, our oldest Brothers who will be > the > > >> > custodians of wisdom > > >> > in this coming Age of Enlightenment, will, in > time, > > >> > be about 40 in > > >> > all. Including Maitreya who is with us now > today, > > >> > having created a > > >> > mahavirupta body (selfcreated)in His abode in > the > > >> > Himalayas, and who > > >> > came to London in 1977 where He still is. > > >> > > > >> > for more information, please see: > > >> > http://www.shareintl.org > > >> > > > >> > "I will fill the world with love and create > Heaven > > >> > on Earth" - > > >> > Maharishi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > Sutphen > > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > Lupidus, how much direct experience do you > have > > >> > with > > >>> > > Punditji? > > >>> > > -Peter > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > I think Pundiji is MMY's Guru Dev > coming back > > >>>>> > > > > to check-up on him! > > >>>>> > > > > -Peter > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Oh, please. Ravi Shankar is a smug > little > > >> > sama-veda > > >>>> > > > pundit who adores > > >>>> > > > to be adored and just loves all the > attention he > > >>>> > > > gets, and wants to > > >>>> > > > copy (down to dressing, hair, typeface > and > > >> > design) > > >>>> > > > the success of > > >>>> > > > Maharishi who employed him in the first > place. > > >> > Seing > > >>>> > > > him loving to be > > >>>> > > > adorned as a 'guru' one wonders if it > possibly > > >> > could > > >>>> > > > be true that he > > >>>> > > > has only done 7 incarnations before > this one. > > >> > Most > > >>>> > > > of the > > >>>> > > > contributers on this forum has > thousands and are > > >>>> > > > probably far more > > >>>> > > > advanced souls. > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! 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