No, sitting in samadhi is not enlightenment. I just mean that as Westerners we are too attached even to our meditation backjacks and tools to do much without them. Speaking from experience I couldn't last in the formless realm even though at times I was in the domes, as other CCP for five hours or more a day. The TM program is varied to keep us Westerners busy. Real yogis can just sit in shenay/samadhi without props. My formless realm would have bad knees ;) But enlightenment is not just being a formless samadhi towel head. It it seeing though samadhi eyes the world as the beloved. Willing too do anything for its benefit, even things that corrupt your self. Retiring from the relative to the absolute, one retires also from the absolute into the relative.  Only swingers allowed.
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From: Vaj
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Atman vs Anatman


On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:24 AM, rudra_joe wrote:

I have said before and will say again that even those westerners who do manage to go into samadhi for even a few hours a day, they still can't do it for much longer than that.

So then from your perspective, you can't get enlightened?


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