I will respond simply by saying that
I accept your thoughts and the 
spirit in which they are given.

--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "at_man_and_brahman" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> snip
> 
> > 
> > Was a bias of L.B.'s revealed in his
> > interpretation of what I said to mean
> > that I sided with hardcore protectionists 
> > in Fairfield?
> > 
> > Then, we all have biases, or at least
> > the "remains" thereof.
> 
> &&&&&&&&
> 
> The semantic loading in your choice of words in those posts indicated an 
> emotional 
> "charge" on your part. In my experience, this only comes from identification 
> with a 
> localized point of view.
> 
> In a recent post, you acknowledged that you used to feel that way (hardcore 
protectionist) 
> when involved locally and that some trace of that may have turned up in your 
> opinions 
on 
> the subject (the "remains" thereof). If you intend to maintain that you have 
> been neutral 
in 
> your positions on this topic, you have a difficult case to make, based on 
> what you have 
> actually left in the archives.
> 
> I have attachments and aversions of my own, based on my 35 years 
> inside/outside the 
> movement, so I have some appreciation that these can persist long beyond our 
conscious 
> perception of them.
> 
> In another recent post, you acknowledged that you have been away from FF for 
> twenty 
> years. I am only saying, as one who has been here during those twenty years, 
> that the 
only 
> explanation I can find for your contentiousness on the issue of "guru turf 
> wars" is that 
you 
> don't realize the extent to which you are still speaking for the TMO.
> 
> The rest of society just doesn't see the issue the way you have presented it. 
> This is not 
> how gurus relate to each other, for the most part, in India, for example. It 
> is not what 
they 
> prescribe for their disciples/devotees. It is only found in the presence of 
> "the one true 
> path" or "the greatest guru of all the ages".
> 
> My thinking about this forum is that it is a colloquium, an opportunity for 
> peers to 
> converse as equals whether they agree on all points or not. When someone 
> takes the 
> position that some of the members are "squatters", or that their gurus are 
> not as 
> legitimate as someone else's, the quality of discourse here inevitably 
> suffers.
> 
> If unavoidable differences of opinion exist regarding gurus and/or teachings, 
> then this 
is a 
> matter for legitimate discussion. Let the debate be on the merits of the 
> evidence or the 
> reasoning, not on the level of unsupported assertions.
> 
> Many people have questioned the "agenda" of FairfieldLife; specifically, some 
> have 
claimed 
> that it is intentionally anti-TM. I have not seen this, regardless of the 
> fact that many who 
> post here have "issues" with the movement and a few plainly despise it. It 
> seems to me, 
> rather, that what some people find objectionable is that very lack of 
> affiliation, based on 
> their feeling that the TMO is the only legitimate organization for all of us, 
> regardless of 
> how we may feel about that.
> 
> The fact that your posts questioned the legitimacy of the presence of 
> "others" in 
Fairfield 
> suggested to me that you were "in that camp". Since it is pretty rare to find 
> someone 
NOT 
> in that camp who would see any problem with spiritual diversity, I am still 
> at a loss to 
see 
> it otherwise. Your logic in responding�"I have no problem with supply and 
> demand as 
> long as a certain segment of the demand side is ignored or prohibited"�really 
> doesn't 
> help your assertion that you are free of your old TM biases, either.
> 
> That's the basis of my taking you to task for your comments about Amma and 
> others. I 
> look forward to your response, should you feel inclined.
> 
> L B S





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