On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:27 PM, at_man_and_brahman wrote:
> (Your tautology aside) not especially, and > Sunthar seems utterly uninterested in > engaging in a discussion that will > reveal its mysteries to me or connect it > to my present and past paradigms. It's simple really. There are two basic streams of ancient Indian society: Vedic and pre-Vedic. Transplant and indigenous. Brahmin and Dravidian. In the current sense, those who are appropriated by Vaishnavism and the primordial yogic Shaivites. One forms a priesthood, another an outcaste Gnosis. In order to preserve one culture (the indigenous Dravidian Shaivite culture--which was VAST), they created barriers which would prevent the Brahmins from raping their culture, their Gnosis. The Aryans were vegetarians and worshipped the cow. The Shaivites ate meat, but worshipped the bull. And on and on. There were certain taboos that separated these two parallel societies. One was an invader/transplant, the other was indigenous. The indigenous people created a sacred life that opposed the transplanted aryan culture. Their sacred life was masked by an approach that would cause a Brahmin to transgress that which hey held sacred: a transgressive sacrality: a sacredness only approached by transgressing everything you held as sacred. A classic example exists in the hatha-yoga-pradapika, the central text of hatha-yoga. In it is the sutra: "Eat meat and drink wine". To the devout Brahmin this was utter heresy! But, if you could transgress the sacred, if you could get beyond the taboos, you might find out the true meaning of this heretical phrase. "Eat meat" was really a play on words. "Mamsa", the word for meat, was also a code-word for the tongue. "Wine" was also a code-word for "amrita", the subtle forms of prana which were associated with the sahasara-chakra. Thus what the phrase really meant was to raise the tongue to the roof of the mouth and drink the "wine", the amrita (or soma), which came from the higher worlds. It is an instruction in khechari-mudra. That is transgressive sacrality. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
