Would it be accurate to say that the pre-Aryan culture was a Shiva-Shakti spirituality? Is Kashmirian Shaivism the only extant link to this ancient culture today? -Peter
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:27 PM, at_man_and_brahman > wrote: > > > (Your tautology aside) not especially, and > > Sunthar seems utterly uninterested in > > engaging in a discussion that will > > reveal its mysteries to me or connect it > > to my present and past paradigms. > > It's simple really. > > There are two basic streams of ancient Indian > society: Vedic and > pre-Vedic. Transplant and indigenous. Brahmin and > Dravidian. In the > current sense, those who are appropriated by > Vaishnavism and the > primordial yogic Shaivites. > > One forms a priesthood, another an outcaste Gnosis. > > In order to preserve one culture (the indigenous > Dravidian Shaivite > culture--which was VAST), they created barriers > which would prevent the > Brahmins from raping their culture, their Gnosis. > > The Aryans were vegetarians and worshipped the cow. > The Shaivites ate > meat, but worshipped the bull. And on and on. There > were certain taboos > that separated these two parallel societies. One was > an > invader/transplant, the other was indigenous. > > The indigenous people created a sacred life that > opposed the > transplanted aryan culture. Their sacred life was > masked by an approach > that would cause a Brahmin to transgress that which > hey held sacred: a > transgressive sacrality: a sacredness only > approached by transgressing > everything you held as sacred. > > A classic example exists in the > hatha-yoga-pradapika, the central text > of hatha-yoga. In it is the sutra: > > "Eat meat and drink wine". > > To the devout Brahmin this was utter heresy! But, if > you could > transgress the sacred, if you could get beyond the > taboos, you might > find out the true meaning of this heretical phrase. > "Eat meat" was > really a play on words. "Mamsa", the word for meat, > was also a > code-word for the tongue. "Wine" was also a > code-word for "amrita", the > subtle forms of prana which were associated with the > sahasara-chakra. > Thus what the phrase really meant was to raise the > tongue to the roof > of the mouth and drink the "wine", the amrita (or > soma), which came > from the higher worlds. It is an instruction in > khechari-mudra. > > That is transgressive sacrality. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
