--- In [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fresh comments below: > Tom Traynor wrote: > > [Brahman consciousness] is not an experience, > > it is an understanding that needs no Master. > > The understanding is complete in an of itself. > > No Master needed as the knowledge in the > > understanding is complete in and of itself. > > Absolute self-verification which is the hallmark > > of this understanding, as it is beyond experience. > Patrick Gilliam Writes: > Tom, I understood the awakening you describe to be > disorienting, necessitating a mahavakya or confirmation > from a master. Are you saying (a) Brahman never > requires a master's confirmation, (b) Brahmin only > requires a master's confirmation sometimes, or (c) > some other thing? > > Tom T again: > Hanging around awake people seems to help get the understanding > cooking but bottom line they will get it by themselves anyway. One > lady in our group described it as follows: I was infinite mind and I > was looking at my finite mind and I knew that my finite mind was never > going to understand what had happened in a million years. That is the > paradox that is the hallmark of this understanding. Nothing has > changed and yet everything has changed. It is a one degree shift but > it is now an understanding from the vantage point of Self > understanding Self and little self is still where it has always been > wondering "What Happened?". Having a Master around is going to help > this understanding flower easier but I don't view it as absolutely > essential. On the other hand for some that may be the only way it is > going to happen. There are no hard rules in a world of 6 billion > possibilities. Go find some awake people and hang out with them and > see what happens. Tom
Now if we only had some way of determining, while not awake to/in Brahmin consciousness, whether another is awake to/in Brahmin consciousness. So many people on this list at one time thought MMY was awake and now they see him as a crook and a swindler. It's all so hilarious, isn't it? Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
