Much more comments below:
Tom T
> I was infinite mind and I
> was looking at my finite mind and I knew that my finite mind was
>never going to understand what had happened in a million years.  That
>is the paradox that is the hallmark of this understanding. Nothing
>has changed and yet everything has changed.

Vaj
Perfect description of turiyatita/CC !

crukstrom wrote:
> When do they become one?
Vaj:
In the Vedantic model, in Brahmi chetana.

Tom T:
It appears we have a slight communication problem so I will try and
make myself clearer. In my comment above when the lady commented on
her experience of Infinite Mind, she never said she witnessed that she
was Infinite mind. To my understanding witnessing is the primary means
of knowing one is in CC. One witnesses all things happening from an
undisturbed state. She did not say she witnessed, she said quite
clearly and maybe I didn't make it clear that she knew she was
infinite mind. Knowing is not witnessing. Knowing is having them one
in her understanding which seems to fulfill your definition of Brahman
above. She was Infinite mind in which finite mind also existed as part
of her wholeness both being available and both making up the entire
wholeness she is. The understanding this experience is wholeness is a
major criteria of the reality of Brahman.  Inside this wholeness
resides all creation. Tom T






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