Well you seem to be describing the same experience I have, but I have to tell you: I certainly do not consider myself enlightened. I have certainty of the View of Unity.
It is very plain, utterly simple. But it's not full awakening. On Mar 23, 2005, at 12:43 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: > > > Tom T comments interspersed > Vay asks: > Mentation ceases. Is that your experience? > Tom T: > My experience is that thoughts are downloaded from the server known as > Creation. I think no thoughts. But thoughts appear. Our good old > friend Paradox appearing again. That seems to be the hallmark of what > is going on, Paradox existing at all times and in all interactions. > Vaj: > All your karmas are exhausted--these are the causes that keep things > going like interactions, synchronicities, certain events. Are you free > of all that? Is that your experience? > Tom T: > Are my karmas done? Don't know and really don't much care. I act but I > know not where the ideas come from. I can be heading to the > supermarket to get groceries and I will find myself in the coffee shop > doing Satsang with some poor unsuspecting soul. I feel free of the > need to be in control and continually wonder at how this all gets done > so efficiently and automatically. > Vaj asks: > If the body didn't die, what did? > Tom T: > That one is easy. The identification with the idea, I am this body. I > was actually killed in car collision about 22 years ago. Not bad > typing for a dead man Huh! The seed effect of that was the imbedded > knowledge I am not my body. It took a lot of years for that seed to > bear fruit and get me to the understanding of where I am now. I came > to the understanding in Satsang one night and actually told every one > that the next time I leave this body I won't even know unless someone > walks up and tells me. That link is pretty tenuous now. > Vaj: > Do you have any perception of shakti, prana, etc? > Tom T: > I am not clear what you are asking but do you mean do I perceive it or > give it or what and what do you mean by shakti or prana. Don't know > what you mean by those particular words. Sorry, tell me more and I > will do my best. > Vaj: > Does Tom perceive Bliss? > Tom T: > The Bliss is the ever-present state I find myself in 24/7. It is not > ramped up and balls to the wall as some think it will be or like it > was in the very beginning. It is this knowing that all is well, all is > as it is. There is easiness to all of life. The bliss actually is kind > of mundane now. What has come to the forefront the last year is the > appreciation of all of creation. This started out as pretty dramatic > and was way more impressive than the bliss. The Understanding that has > come from this ever-deepening appreciation is that appreciation is > just the outward stoke. The inward stroke that appeared about 8 months > ago is the intimacy with all of creation. When I say appreciation I > mean blow your socks off amping up of unbounded love. Add in the > ever-increasing intimacy and you have a situation that is almost too > much to bear. Notice I said almost. It is bearable but sometimes there > are no words to say what is gong on and no desire to even attempt it. > Tom T > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
