--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > A turning point for me was when I realized all the experiences my > "Sidhi" practice generating were just samsara. The point I had >always missed was that the experiences were an opportunity to >understand how > samsara was created.
Hi, Would you elaborate on that, what samsara means here and how would it be created thru that process/experience? > Immediately on realizing that, at the gap where > the experience left, their arose a great revulsion for samsara. This > bewildered me at first. The desire to cry arose, but immediately > dissolved like a wisp of cloud in the wide blue sky. I had just >been grasping at samsara. I also have had similar experiences regarding the desire to cry that dissolves, especially when I have good strong experiences after my Sidha/TM practice. this also brings me to experience a desire to nullify the whole existence and be in a "cave" mode as you described below. It dose looks like a loop experience that I always thought as my own unstressing. You see more to it and it rings as truth, I'm not sure I fully understand the connections you make to lokas (what is it?) or more important what one needs to learn from it and how not to be stuck in ones own movie that repeats itself. ( I practice TM and Sidhis many years but didn't learn the philosophy behind it or behind the experiences, everything in TMO seems to be just unstressing... ;0 ) Thanks. >After all, I liked having "experiences". But no > one had ever taught what their value--if any--was. > > Later on, one of my teachers told me that this was a major obstacle > (experiences as experience). In the higher teachings where people go > into caves or types of boundaried retreat, they are given methods which > allow experiences of all lokas (dimensions) to come forth. If you > hadn't learned that experiences, in and of themselves, aren't what the > goal is, you can get caught there. In some cases, expert meditators who > went into the caves would go for months, years, even hundreds of > years--all because of the endless display of their own movie. > > Krishna might have said: don't be attached to the movie, but know the > projector and the movie and just try to relax, they're not separate, OK > Arjuna? > > my .02 USD To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
