Drake Bennett on the work of Robert Trivers:

> > self-deception. If we don't know we're lying, 
> > then we won't act like we're lying, and are more 
> > likely to get away with it."

Rick Carlstrom wrote:
> 
> Well then, this hypothesis may be an explanation 
> of the George W. Bush phenomena.

Yes, the GWB phenomenon was what sparked my 
original exchange with Akasha. It's fascinating to 
see it at work in politics.

However, I certainly don't think self-deception is 
limited to politicians. It appears to be very relevant 
in the TMO, for instance. And then we get into the 
whole "how do I know what I know?" epistemological 
go-round that has engaged so much of my time at 
Fairfield Life.

Self-deception is an interesting topic as it relates to 
ideologies. But some people apply it to the larger 
subject of enlightenment as a whole.

Dana Sawyer, who doesn't post here directly but is heard from via Rick Archer, 
believes that people who say they're enlightened are simply deceiving 
themselves. 
As evidence for this position, he cites the utter disagreement about what 
enlightenment is like from culture to culture. One would think that 
enlightenment, 
an ultimate state of self-evident reality, would be described in similar ways 
across 
histories and cultures. But no, says Sawyer: all the accounts seem to echo what 
the 
culture says they *should* sound like, and those accounts often take polar 
opposite 
positions. (The Hindus describe it as fullness, for instance, but the Buddhists 
describe it as emptiness.)

I'm not saying I agree with Dana, and I suppose it's a cheap shot to post his 
notions 
here without a knowledgeable explanation and defense. I'm merely pointing out 
that the topic of self-deception may interest some of the philosophers around 
here, 
and Robert Trivers throws another log on the fire.

 - Patrick Gillam





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