On Mar 29, 2005, at 5:56 PM, rudra_joe wrote:

>
> That last step I couldn't have done at Naropa back then.

If that was today, what then?
 
-------I think they've depersonalized with Shamballah training. Naropa had an interesting psychology department. Though I had pure motivation at MIU I was very messed up mentally and had to rejuvinate. I didn't have the stillness of mind to get into rushan-like practices. As if.


>  And I lucked out and got Nyingthig Yabshi as first empowerment later.

Did they give Dark retreat instructions or togyal sadhanas?

--Actually Malcolm did translate the sadhanas even though they are old, archaic and very yogic. yes they gave togal postures and such. It wasn't detailed, yes, some pointing out. That's what I mean. And emphasis on compassion and it felt very whole and right.  No dark retreat instructions but I believe the permission are there. The Nyingthig Yabshi is pretty much like Heart Drops of Dharmakaya. What info I didn't get exactly many others have given me.  The point being that I didn't get into sutra or something that might have taken ten years to pay off.
 

>  The lama giving the whole shebang all at once. I am proud to be of
> the largest MIU class and grad group ever. Class of 87, yeah boi.
 
For some reason I think we had aound 300 and something in my first year class in 83 and 135 or so at Grad.


How big?

Good luck on the Jazz club.
 
Thanks. It would be nice.


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