Bob, you can on mentioning TM as what is sound as the best technique
on earth or very close to it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
surely you know that are other technique that preceded TM and MMY
that also use meditation at their basis.
Would you humour me and clear why do you see TM technique as the last
and ultimate resort, 'saving the world' teaching while all others
long timers technique
and teaching have been here long ago. Still the world progress and
regress on it's
own pace and not even TM going to change that...?
--- In [email protected], "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 'The initiation took place in front of a picture of Guru Dev and I
> > was told that I should consider neither my initiator nor Maharishi
> > Mahesh Yogi as my spiritual teacher but the Guru Dev himself.' -
> > Dinesh Khare [from his introduction to 'Strange Facts About A
Great
> > Saint' - a biography of His Divinity Swami Brahmanand Saraswati
> > Maharaj]
> >
>
> MMY has always said "all glory to Guru Dev," and has disallowed
pujas
> by TM teachers to himself, so this is not exactly news that you are
> presenting. Guru Dev came out of the woods only to find a suitably
> receptive student, who spoke the international language, English,
and
> who had a Western education, in Physics, who could bring the
benefits
> of bliss consciousness that he found living in a cave to
householders
> around the world who are unable to follow that rigorous lifestyle.
> The real motive behind your opposition to MMY is a resistance on
your
> part to spiritual growth, a resistance to the light introduced by
TM,
> a resistance that expresses itself in your opposition to MMY, whose
> total surrender to the Divine personality of Guru Dev has made him
an
> extension of that personality:
>
> http://geocities.com/bbrigante/spiritual.html#dev
>
> > Like many others I have been uncomfortable about many of the
> > initiatives undertaken in recent years by the TMO and about
certain
> > of the recent announcements made by MMY. Furthermore, Of late I
have
> > been pressed to question my views of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi whose
> > biography I wrote some ten years ago. Gradually I am coming to
> > realise that he now seems to speak an entirely different
language, a
> > language I cannot respect, a voice against democracy.
>
> Democracy is clearly not a sustainable form of government, but a
> temporary expedient engendered by the a low level of consciousness
on
> earth, so that the evil rulers who reflect that low level of
> consciousness are rejected by the people, who embrace democracy as
an
> attempt to avoid abuse. Although it is pointless for MMY to decry
> democracy, in my opinion (because it is group consciousness that
> determines what the govt is), it is also absolutely true that
> democracy is cruel, inefficient, and is on its way out when world
> consciousness rises and good and capable people are available to
run
> govts. MMY is not unaware of the "wild" character of current
> dictators and kings:
>
> http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#memo
>
> >Thus I review
> > the criticisms of his peer group and of his detractors, wondering
if
> > there might be any substance to their rants.
> >
>
> The fact that some people in India (who are enemies of MMY out of
> jealousy and pettiness) may have certain titles does not mean that
> they are "peers" -- they would be peers if they were of the same
> level of consciousness as Guru Dev, but they are not, which is why,
> out of their ignorance, they attack the plans to enlighten the
world
> that enjoy the favor of Guru Dev.
>
> > When I pose such questions on TM newsgroups I am confronted by
self-
> > elected representatives twisting my words and twisting my motives.
> > One thing I have learned from this experience is that I have been
> > naieve in the extreme to think that TMers are either more more
> likely
> > to be more honest or more reasonable than non-meditators. But Guru
> > Dev was clear that one should tolerate the intoleration of others.
>
> So people who object to your horseshit are "self-elected," but you,
> who devotes considerable ink to vilifying MMY, are beyond
criticism?
> You are a real gem, pal -- which of course does, in a way, prove
your
> thesis that meditators are neither more honest or reasonable than
non-
> meditators.
>
> The real reason why little difference (to date) is found between
the
> behavior of meditators and non-meditators is that the early
adopters
> of TM have been disproportionately crackpot, which is just the
nature
> of early adopters of anything. When TM spreads to a wider portion
of
> the population, it will be clear that expanded awareness generated
by
> TM is useful for the growth of a useful personality.
>
> Bob
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