on 4/18/05 12:48 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> How can any mantra which doesn't have the Pranava bring Liberation? >>> What TM mantra includes "OM"? >> >> Apparently it can, if you believe the many long-time TM > practitioners in FF who say they have awakened. > > "long-time TM practitioners in FF" -- that may be your first clue. > > "long-time TM practitioners in FF" who also at times believed any > number of fantastic (as in fantasy) things, abilities, projects, etc. > spoke about them authoratatively, and deeply believed them -- until > time eventually woke them up to the dream-like facade of their > beliefs. Why should we suddenly find such people credible now?
What makes you think it's the same people? > And if one proclams they have become awakened -- wonder deeply about > that! Who wakes up? What was eternally there, always awake? Well of course. Everyone acknowledges the limitation of words. > > I suspect some of these such awakened will also gladly tell you about > other spiritual wonders they have achieved and gained. Who gained what? > > I suppose one strategy is to simply laud these people, tell them what > great shining souls they are (if you can avoid snickering), that they > have obtained such great attainments, that they indeed are the blessed > ones, that they, they, they, they .... until their false ego, puffed > up by lots of spirutal talk, bursts with a big silent poof! That may be appropriate for some of them, but most I know wouldn't let you go on like that. The Robin Carlson era is long past. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
