Patanjali believed them be fully working. also if they are useless why Purusha spent so much time practicing them?
we also have historic evidence that above normal powers are achievable. --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting aside the texts for a moment, what are > peoples' experiences with the TM-Siddhi > program? It seems whacky to debate a text, > however learned, when we have such a large > cohort of people who've practiced the techniques > for decades. I'm thinking we could evaluate them > for ourselves, based on our own knowledge. > > For myself, I can't confess to any powers from > the siddhis, other than the hopping stuff, but > they do seem to do just what I was told they'd > do: solidify the presence of silent consciousness. > > What are other people getting? > > - Patrick Gillam > > > On Apr 20, 2005, at 8:18 AM, wayback71 wrote: > > > > > What do the Shankaracharyas say? Who is > > > Vidyaranya? > > > > Vaj wrote: > > > > Vidyaranya was one of the most eminent Shankaracharyas. He was the 12th > > jagadguru of the Sringiri seat. His text on the attainment of Cosmic > > Consciousness is still the standard among yogis today. That's why is it > > so significant on what he says of the siddhis and samyama--if you are > > interested in enlightenment that is. > > > > > Is it possible that the siddhis are really about making the relative, > > > subjective aspect of the > > > individual a better, kinder and more skilled human being - so that > > > when they do reach > > > CC, they aren't a nasty, unpleasant, unkind Enlightened person? > > > > Vaj wrote: > > > > Vidyaranya would disagree. You would more likely become either > > egocentric or a collector of subtle experiences. These experiences > > would come and go and not lead to a permanent state of higher > > consciousness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
