--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Llundrub"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Somtimes though,  people simple don't read whats
> > on the page. They
> > > hear what their innards think the person must be
> > saying, based on some
> > > stereotype, or simplistic representation, the
> > person has been tagged
> > > with by the reader's mental and emotional worlds.
> > >    
> > > 
> > > btw, welcome back vashti.   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----Yeah, like how Ron merely read half of my post
> > and then decided
> > to comment upon it.
> > 
> > Ron ?
> 
> You arrogant, self-centerd basta.....wait, I'm sorry
> akasha, that's me I'm talking about!
> -Me


Ah, Brother Peter, your comments are indeed insightful and wise. 

As I read it, you are commenting on the question and paradox of
projection -- or projecting ones inner models and biases onto the
words or motivations of another. Your comment, while appropriately
making fun of my prior comments about your words (it was your words
and style that I found arrogant, not you (were my words clear on that,
hmm, if not I should, as always, strive to write more clearly)) point
 to an important question: what is NOT projection? 

It can be a hallway of infinite mirrors: did I see arrogance in your
words because that is what I am, and can not help but see that in
others? Is your humerous response because you see some shortcoming in
me that is really a projection of your own shortcomings?

I own up to having arrogance within me, and any number of other less
than virtuous qualities. Does that mean that i see arrogance
everywhere and in everything? No, because that is not the case.

So the reverse side of the big question is: when is an observation
projection and when is it insight?

These questions recognize that all have filters, even lasyavidya in
liberation provides certain filters that correspond to personal
preference, ways of categorizing the world, people, etc.  

My current take on this (perhaps stemming from innate qualites that I
am projecting) is that all observations are not necessarily
projections -- but most observations are subject to subtle and even
quite blatant projections -- distortions built into our own
interpretative filters. 

The intellect, daily sharpened, has a role in looking hard at what is,
and unfiltering the internal filters, helping to lay them aside. 

Thats why I mentioned the observation that people often / sometimes
don't even read the words that are on the page. Their filters kick in,
perhaps in a pitta moment, and all becomes a cloud of dust, with light
now difussed and distorted in myriad of ways  as it tries to pass
thru, but instead is reflected off, the dust.

Sometimes there is so much dust strewn about that even a calm reminder
to "just look at the words"  raises even more dust. I have noticed
recently, and numerous times in the past, that a simple request to
simply try to map  the words in question to ones reaction is met with
hostility and rebuke-- and humerously enough, no actual attempt at
such mapping.  

Maya is the most subtle, and blatant of these filters -- and refined
intellect has a role, not THE (exclusive) role in extracting the real
from the unreal, the complete from the uncomplete.

--- from the dustbin, Akasha


  







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