On Apr 28, 2005, at 3:15 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:

> There is no suffering as the consciousness that knows itself as
> Krishna sees this painful act of being shot in the foot as absolutely
> perfect. Krishna knows it is perfect because that is the way it went
> down. Pain is very present. No suffering as there is no belief it
> should be any other way than it currently is. No belief, no suffering.

Believing there is no belief is still a belief.

> The awake knows that the fullness and wholeness of creation is
> structuring every moment perfectly.

Creation = Samsara. Is Samsara perfect? Creation implies Creator. Why 
does the "Awake" believe this?



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