I've been having problems connecting with a few of you today.  No point saying who. I just am not understanding the gist of things being written.  I asked for clarification from Jim on a number of things but each time got another nonsequitur.   It's a bit late at night so the final fog of the evening seems immanent.  Frankly, I don't think imagination is everything in these experiences. just my take. Jim and Rory are walking a dangerous line in admitting these things as the results of such discussions are as old as time. Basically scepticism, doubt, and then degrading comments and rudeness, and so on ad nauseam.  Hard to countenance. I will never admit having any experience more profound than stepping in dogshit.  At least that lightens the atmosphere. Ironic that little old ladies falling down flights of steps brings lightness and laughter, but people seeing angels brings malignity and evil rebukes.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] was [Re: This stuff never gets old...] Maharishi vs. the movement

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:
> Well, when you said fruit of the imagination it's not hard to
>imagine that meaning basically delusions.

not sure why you need to 'imagine' when I clearly said what I mean.
in any case we can agree to disagree.

Or is that a wrong assumption?

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: anonymousff
>   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:45 PM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] was [Re: This stuff never gets old...]
Maharishi vs. the movement
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>   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   wrote:
>   > On May 5, 2005, at 5:30 PM, anonymousff wrote:
>   >
>   > > imo, these things seems to me fruit of imagination.
>   >
>   >
>   > ----Best not to make fun of shit that's
>
>   where do you see making fun? I still can express my opinion,
can't I?
>   imo means exactly that.
>
>   > out of your own perceptual range lest you be also taken for a
fool
>   >someday. After all, this is what most are aspiring to, this
>
>   I'm not aspiring  to be deluded.
>
>   >expansiveness.  As others have said, the experiences are
commonplace,
>
>   commonplace dose not prove anything.
>
>   > and I know many who have them and they all say the same thing,
the
>   experiences are as meaningful as a bowl of cereal.  Just a part
of
>   life. That's how they can have them and still function. That
shows
>   spiritual maturity, because the people with the breakthrough
>   >experiences are the ones that turn the world upside down
>
>   or turn the world down. sorry I don't see it as a breakthrough
>   experiences.
>
>   > and create new religions and just more chaos. The spiritually
>   mature understand that it's everyone's birthright to see the
finer
>   levels of the energetic world thst suffuses us. Especially at a
>   listserv like this some understanding should be forthcoming, and
if
>   not understanding then just simple acceptance. I would for one
try to
>   >keep Robert Keith Wallace out of my brain with his needles.
>
>   >Leave science to the junk heap where its products end up, and
leave
>   >the metaphysics to the living where the breathing lie.
>
>   yeh right, lol.
>   I'll take science any day, no contradiction.
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