Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar

Mon, 09 May 2005 14:49:12 -0700

Atomics aren't horrible as they're the key to the space industry which will in the future allow a bunch of more souls to incarnate in higher form without burdening this planet.  If this wasn't the motivation for their development then so be it. How often do we do things for one reason and then do something else entirely.  I came to New Orleans to go to law school but now I'm a chef. Maybe the law will be a good thing to have studied someday when I do my own business.
 
My own prejudice - I wouldn't trust anyone on earth with possession of a nuke except the Buddha. I consider no one else so little polemical as to not have some desire to use one against someone else. Sometimes the way Maharishi is talking I'm thinking he's in league with the Al Qaeda or at least applauding them. He and Bin Laden would probably have a fine midday brunch together and the best of times and conversations. They both hate you and me.
 
Ask yourself this, if Maharishi controlled nukes would he destroy them all or save a couple? 
 
Chagdud Tulku tells of a woman who said she died in a car crash and became enlightened.  He asked her, do you still become angry? She said yes. He said that she was not enlightened then. When you are enlightened there is no more anger or desire. Or pride, envy, sloth. Enlightenment is removal of the obscurations of the mind.  If they are still there then ones light is obscured. Simple.
 
One who is extinguished is not berating everyone and beating his chest and pulling his beard. He is a space of peace from samsara, not more of it. If you can't clearly tell the difference between samsara and relativity and your guru then your guru is relativistic and samsaric. In which case, is there even a path to follow?  How will one become liberated with such an example? 
 
I personally have had enough of new paths. All this pacing from Britain to Somewhere. Is anywhere really better than here, now? And can peace be had from anywhere other than from within?  And how much can that cost? And for how much can that be sold?
 
Is it impossible that someone with great spiritual sidhi can be wrong? It's much more likely that they'll be wrong when they set out to create a whole new teaching with no actual lineage to which they owe obeisance. In this whole world there is not one soul alive which Maharishi respects and to whom he would bow his head. The TMO walks alone.
 
TMO started as one thing and now it's another. Who knows what it will be next.  Atomics are not evil, and may be the means of great things someday. The TMO is not evil, and yet may be the source of great evil someday.  Who can really predict the future?
 
BTW is Sat Yuga still coming by Guru Purnima? Or did we fuck that up now too? My personal belief? Maharishi will drop the body this very year. Make your peace with him now. 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar

It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very
worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is
unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be
said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. To do
moreso is to claim more knowledge than Krishna indicated was
possible for a human.

On the other hand, suppose that we could find an unmistakable
connection between a country's wrongdoings in the past and
Maharishi's cutting them out of Heaven on Earth and Sat Yuga. Why
then would it make sense for Maharishi to include just about any
country in the world? Think of the recent threads on FFL re the mass
murders that have taken place by the Germans (during WWII), by
Stalinist Russia, in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of Africa, etc.
Why don't these countries get cut out of Heaven as well?

Maharishi's platform has always been about amending the errors of
the past, not about punishing the errors of the past. This Brit
thing is entirely out of character with his lifetime platform, if
not out of character with his private railings against the CIA etc.

Maharishi's platform has always been about global enlightenment - we
all rise together faster when we all participate. Cutting a whole
country out of the good news isn't what he taught us. This is an
entirely new aberration.

--- In [email protected], "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
>  MMY punishing UK for Blair has nothing to do with the old British
> > empire!
>
> Of course it has. Blair, along with Bush, is directly responsible
for
> the slaughter of ten thousands of civilians in Iraq. In the same
way
> as the britons collectively are responsible for the slaughters in
> India will this bear consequences sooner or later. As you sow, so
> shall you reap. There is no way escaping karma I'm afraid.
>
> And if anything, it was British scholars who revived Indian
> > interest in their own Vedic culture! 
>
> Dream on, but keep in mind that brainwashing from western
> universities is highly dangerous and a hazard to your mind.
>
>
> I wish
> > > > someone
> > > > in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our
country
> > and
> > > > we're
> > > > going to carry on doing what we can do improve it.
> > >
> > > The britons in particular are paying a heavy price indeed for
> > occupying
> > > India. The karma they accumulated there, forcefully trying to
> > eliminate
> > > the Vedic knowledge, will linger on for a long, long time.
> > >
> > > The karma for other violent and imperialistic countries will
> arrive
> > in
> > > due time.




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