>From where have you drawn the conclusion that MMY is somehow closer to God than somebody else? Isn't that a hastily drawn conclusion? In matters of that significance I wouldn't draw conclusions at all. Through my eyes I see every living entity being as close to God as anyone else. Everything is expression of God.
Irmeli --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good point Rick, though I the invective directed at Maharishi was > getting a little too deep for my comfort. > > On the one hand I deeply appreciate the unvarnished truth as we know > it being expressed here. It is certainly vastly preferable to a bunch > of TM clones parroting the 'party line' (which by the way is a useful > exercise in training the mind, but something more appropriate for > nursery school vs. kindergarten, where we now find ourselves...). > > On the other hand, to say that Maharishi is an extraordinarily > enlightened man, i.e. one who's every action is selfless activity in > the light of God, and then to criticize it, i.e. to criticize God's > instrument, well you can see where I have an issue with that. It > strikes me as supremely arrogant. Really chomping down on the hand > that feeds us. > > So I am entirely OK if someone deeply questions what Maharishi is up > to; that is the nature of our quest, question everything, take nothing > for granted. It is the judgment of Maharishi though, hence of God, the > inference that we can act out the Supreme Play better than God can > that I completely disagree with. > > And as I look over that last statement, I can see someone may question > my equating of Maharishi with God. What I mean by stating it so is > that once one gets close enough to God, where is the difference? > Whether we are submerged in Him, or Him Himself, what is the > difference? I don't have the answer to that, just the question. > > So how do we know Maharishi is indeed flawed by what he says or does? > We really don't. What I see instead are a couple of cultural and > personal elements playing out here: > > 1. The western mind's desire for instant judgment, instant > gratification. While it may be honest to reach hasty conclusions, they > are often incorrect, seen in the light of a longer timeframe. > > (Although I am an average white american I grew up in Southeast Asia. > The mentality regarding time in the east is very different. The > thinking is different; wait and see, wait and see.) > > This is not an indictment of west vs east, just a statement on the > relative value of time for western mind vs eastern mind. > > 2. A lot of us here bought into the idea of instant or quick > enlightenment. Maharishi calls it as he sees it. On the background of > infinity, what is ten years, fifty years, a lifetime? > > Guru Dev's programs are very pure and very powerful. Nonetheless it > doesn't mean that we should not remain constantly vigilant towards our > little ego's tricks. Guru Dev had no patience for the flailing of the > little ego. He would kick its ass without a moment's hesitation. Along > with infinite and universal love, that is his vibration. > > So all of the Maharishi is this and Maharishi is that means not much. > Sure we all bought into various constructs of the mind, various trade- > offs for 'enlightenment'. Examine them ruthlessly; let's not offer our > failures as clothing for Maharishi. > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's a third view, expressed here often by me, Dr. Pete, and > others, > > which is that Maharishi is an extraordinarily enlightened human > being whose > > relative personality is flawed in various ways, as reflected in > things he > > has said and done over the years. This view is invalidated by the > belief > > that everyone is perfect just as they are, if you choose to look at > it that > > way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
