Hey People,
As I see it, Maharishi has realized God, perhaps a bit more than the rest of us. That is not to say he is God.
The debate about who says who is God, I think originated with the Romans and the adoption of Chrisianity as the state religion of Rome.
In those days, the establishment, wanted to seperate the new Roman Religious God- Jesus, from being asssociated with anything Jewish.
Thus, Jesus, was said to be the Son of God, and the rest of us, just mere mortals.
As you can see, from the garb of the Pope, in the Vatican in Rome, that the whole thing is still very Roman; down to the kissing of the ring. This is all reminescent of Caesar, as the Emperor of Rome, and the command to regard Caesar as God. (something the Jews always refused to do- and the Romans destroyed Isreal in 70 AD.
Any-how, we are all sons and daughters of God, all quite capible of miracles, as we become more God- Realized; as we allow more of our soul energy in, and let more of the ego energy out.
Maharishi is just a great sage, and a yogi, who is as devoted to raising the consciousness of human-kind.
R.G.
Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From where have you drawn the conclusion that MMY is somehow closer to
God than somebody else?
Isn't that a hastily drawn conclusion?
In matters of that significance I wouldn't draw conclusions at all.
Through my eyes I see every living entity being as close to God as
anyone else. Everything is _expression_ of God.
Irmeli
--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Good point Rick, though I the invective directed at Maharishi was
> getting a little too deep for my comfort.
>
> On the one hand I deeply appreciate the unvarnished truth as we know
> it being expressed here. It is certainly vastly preferable to a bunch
> of TM clones parroting the 'party line' (which by the way is a useful
> exercise in training the mind, but something more appropriate for
> nursery school vs. kindergarten, where we now find ourselves...).
>
> On the other hand, to say that Maharishi is an extraordinarily
> enlightened man, i.e. one who's every action is selfless activity in
> the light of God, and then to criticize it, i.e. to criticize God's
> instrument, well you can see where I have an issue with that. It
> strikes me as supremely arrogant. Really chomping down on the hand
> that feeds us.
>
> So I am entirely OK if someone deeply questions what Maharishi is up
> to; that is the nature of our quest, question everything, take nothing
> for granted. It is the judgment of Maharishi though, hence of God, the
> inference that we can act out the Supreme Play better than God can
> that I completely disagree with.
>
> And as I look over that last statement, I can see someone may question
> my equating of Maharishi with God. What I mean by stating it so is
> that once one gets close enough to God, where is the difference?
> Whether we are submerged in Him, or Him Himself, what is the
> difference? I don't have the answer to that, just the question.
>
> So how do we know Maharishi is indeed flawed by what he says or does?
> We really don't. What I see instead are a couple of cultural and
> personal elements playing out here:
>
> 1. The western mind's desire for instant judgment, instant
> gratification. While it may be honest to reach hasty conclusions, they
> are often incorrect, seen in the light of a longer timeframe.
>
> (Although I am an average white american I grew up in Southeast Asia.
> The mentality regarding time in the east is very different. The
> thinking is different; wait and see, wait and see.)
>
> This is not an indictment of west vs east, just a statement on the
> relative value of time for western mind vs eastern mind.
>
> 2. A lot of us here bought into the idea of instant or quick
> enlightenment. Maharishi calls it as he sees it. On the background of
> infinity, what is ten years, fifty years, a lifetime?
>
> Guru Dev's programs are very pure and very powerful. Nonetheless it
> doesn't mean that we should not remain constantly vigilant towards our
> little ego's tricks. Guru Dev had no patience for the flailing of the
> little ego. He would kick its ass without a moment's hesitation. Along
> with infinite and universal love, that is his vibration.
>
> So all of the Maharishi is this and Maharishi is that means not much.
> Sure we all bought into various constructs of the mind, various trade-
> offs for 'enlightenment'. Examine them ruthlessly; let's not offer our
> failures as clothing for Maharishi.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's a third view, expressed here often by me, Dr. Pete, and
> others,
> > which is that Maharishi is an extraordinarily enlightened human
> being whose
> > relative personality is flawed in various ways, as reflected in
> things he
> > has said and done over the years. This view is invalidated by the
> belief
> > that everyone is perfect just as they are, if you choose to look at
> it that
> > way.
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