i think it would be wise for someone to search for another guru, if one feel's dissatisfied with the present one.

TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Irmeli:
>  Why would criticizing a guru, even your own guru be a bad thing?

Obviously, I don't think it is.  I believe that a
spiritual teacher -- any spiritual teacher -- should
be even more open to close scrutiny than anyone else.

> If the guru
> is firmly established in Self , he can tolerate and receive
> criticism. His self-esteem isn't threatened by it. When the guru is
> responding to the criticism, the student gets clarifications to his
> doubts and new insights.

Yup.  I've been fortunate enough to interact with a
few folks like that; it's always an education.

> If the guru is not totally established in Self, his self-esteem is
> dependent of the adulation and adoration he receives. He is very
much
> afraid of his weaknesses being seen. All perceptive criticism is a
> serious threat to him and to his loyal followers as well. The guru
> represents for them a idealized dream of themselves. And they
cannot
> allow this dream to collapse.
>
> For this kind of guru-disciple relationship to persist, the guru
has
> to be distant. In a close daily contact the idealization would
> collapse rather fast.

Thus the Disappearing Skinboy Phenomenon.  And lest
anyone think that this is Maharishi-bashing, it's not. 
The same phenomenon exists in many spiritual trips. 

And interestingly enough, so does the corollary.
Many of the strongest True Believers have purpose-
fully maintained their distance from the teacher
*so that* they can preserve the idealized vision
of him or her that they have in their minds.  They
don't *want* to get close, because they might see
something that interferes with that vision. 

Unc






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