Thoughtful post, but way too logical.  I agree with you. However, I think I 
have been 
brainwashed by Bob!!  If we use Bob's logic here, England's problem is that 
they really tried 
wholeheartedly to fulfill MMY's instructions over the years.They obyed him as 
best they 
could. They devotedly built up an organizaton over the decades.  Now that they 
have done 
as good a job as the prices allowed, they are too successful.  MMY now has to 
slow down 
the evolution of the West.  Since England's TMO and meditating community os so 
powerful 
and devoted, they should be thwarted.  They are too positive a force. Hence the 
recent 
directives.  Using this way of looking at it all, it is really impossible to 
please MMY.   The 
only thing that seems to get positive attention in theTMO is sending in money, 
and as the 
Kaplans found out, even that is risky.   Boy, do I sound cynical!  UGH  

--- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just seen this conference replay. I can see Maharishi's plan 
> now, to select a few countries he'd concentrate resourcs on, apart 
> from India, to "demonstrate" the reality of the "effect" he's 
> creating with his Indian pundits; and whilst doing so he'd withdraw 
> his organisation from other countries, firstly the UK, because he 
> views it as so hell-bent on destruction, to act as some comparison 
> group. As a media attention-seeking device this may work..
> 
> But from my perspective his reaction to Blair's re-election is
> misinformed in the first place. Three fifths of the population voted
> against Blair, are now against the war and any further aggressive
> tendencies; his majority was dramatically reduced and he's not
> expected to survive as leader of his party for much longer. This is
> in sharp contrast to the situation in the US where Bush was re-
> elected with a record majority and where most people still support
> aggressive tendencies. This is far more significant because the US is
> the only real superpower of this age.
> 
> Moreover Britain has special links with India and Maharishi that no
> other country has. British scholars were instrumental in reviving
> interest in Vedic scriptures within India during the Empire. The
> Beatles played their part in spreading Maharishi's fame around the
> world. The largest community of Indians outside India lives in
> harmony in the UK. As for British meditators, they have contributed
> generously to the World Peace project fund, pioneered the Natural Law
> parties and made a success of the European Siddhaland and its
> Maharishi school.
> 
> The trends in Britain have been increasingly positive in the last
> decade or so. From being the "sick man of Europe" the country is now
> prospering as the fourth largest economy in the world - a sign,
> surely, of Nature support. There has been the historic peace
> agreement in Northern Ireland, after decades of terrorism. Surveys
> show that British people are now less materialistic, valuing "quality
> of life" more. The younger generation even is becoming less
> hedonistic and more mature (for instance see
> http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?
> story=AY2411894S&news_headline=hols_and_cars_slip_down_quality_of_life
> _wish and
> http://society.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,7838,1481132,00.html ).
> All these trends point to a country poised for a revival of interest
> in spirituality and TM. Maharishi's negative view of Britain must be
> linked to the bad old days of the British Empire. Paradoxically,
> after telling off Britain for its divide and rule policies he goes
> on to implement such a policy himself, in isolating and demonising
> Britain as Satan incarnate!
> 
> Maharishi's justification for the withdrawal of teachers contradicts
> years of promotion of the principle of increasing national coherence,
> since it is implied that at least in the case of Britain increasing
> coherence through initiatons etc is actually a bad thing - feeding
> the "snake's" negativity. However bad the situation in Britain is it
> is not a war zone where teachers' lives are endangered - where it
> would otherwise be sensible to relocate in some proximity elsewhere.
> It is now a scientifically proven principle that coherence-increasing
> groups positively affect national coherence, no matter what has gone
> on before and whatever leader or political system is in power - right?
> 
> This abandonment of British meditators is also unethical. When people
> are initiated they are specifically promised continued checking
> support for life. Teachers who recently paid to become recertified
> suddenly find themselves unable to teach in their own country anyway -
> a rather fraudulent situation. The Movement has already sold much of
> its real estate assets - capital that was to be reinvested in Peace
> Palaces here. Now these funds are likely to go out of the country -
> the British meditating community will never recover.
> 
> What is unethical is surely violating some Laws of Nature. Where is
> the "parental role" in all this that was supposed to be nourishing
> everyone - impartially? And can the Global Country be called "global"
> anylonger if it withdraws its responsibility towards British
> meditators in this way?
> 
> Finally, Maharishi has taken too long to realise the futility of
> waiting for Governments to respond to his wierd newspaper
> advertisements about the unified field etc. He had the resources
> decades ago to go it alone and create and demonstrate his "effect".
> OK he's trying to do so now but there is no need to withdraw from the
> UK or other countries in the process, thus disrupting structures that
> have taken a generation or two to set up. He could simply focus more
> attention and resources in the selected countries, a reasonable
> enough idea that wouldn't alienate anybody...
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Forwarded to me from the TM Friends list:
> > 
> > In his Press Conference today Maharishi said he closed down the 
> > British TM
> > movement a few days ago. He also said that he now takes away all 
> > attention on
> > England. This is a very serious and unprecedented decision that 
> > undoubtedly will
> > affect Britain dramatically.
> > 
> > This is his reaction to the reelection of Blair on the 5th of May. 
> > This
> > reelection was a sign that aggressive military and political 
> > activities are
> > still supported by the majority of the English people.
> > 
> > It seems that he now wants to state a concrete example what will 
> > occur when
> > access to Vedic technologies and its coherence-creating effects are 
> > withdrawn
> > from a country. It has formerly been said that the Grahashanti 
> yagyas 
> > can be
> > directed to selected countries. So the massive mahayagya now going 
> on 
> > in India
> > will not benefit Britain.
> > 
> > Maharishi said in a Press Conference last year that there will be a 
> > great
> > difference between the countries that benefit from the coherence 
> > creating effect
> > and those that don't. The former will flourish and the latter will 
> > perish and
> > sooner or later he said they will wake up to an insight about the 
> > reason for
> > this difference. If England does not wake up it will sink into the 
> > Sea Maharishi
> > has repeatedly said (already southeast England is slowly becoming 
> > submerged).
> > 
> > So while, in the last 5 weeks, growing signs of remarkable positive 
> > tendencies
> > and improvements have been irradiating from India to neighboring 
> > countries (as
> > reported in Maharishis Press Conferences), in countries that are 
> not 
> > exposed to
> > this coherence creating influence, we can expect a growth of 
> negative
> > tendencies, like increasing social discord, economic crises, terror 
> > attacks,
> > epidemics, disasters (for example scientists warn for a giant 
> > Tsunami, manifold
> > greater than the one in the Indian Ocean to occur in La Palma 
> Canary 
> > Islands -
> > it is predicted to affect England among others, see
> > 
> http://www.benfieldhrc.org/SiteRoot/in_the_news/press_cuttings/Insuran
> > ce%20Day/n\
> > ew_york_tsunami.htm).
> > 
> > I hope for the sake of all the good people in England that it will 
> > not take too
> > long before the English people will stop supporting destructive 
> > political and
> > military activities, and choose constructive peaceful policies 
> > including the
> > support of Maharishi's Peace Programs.




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