On May 12, 2005, at 7:43 PM, benjaminccollins wrote: > Gandhi used Ram as his mantra. From what I uderstand from the priests > that I know who are well versed in the Vedas, it is the bija mantras > that have power. Mantras like "Ram" are good for developing or > expressing devotion, but don't seem to "do" much. So it makes sense > to me that MMY would have used bijas.
Ram--depending on intent and context, can be a bija-akshara. > > As others will no doubt point out, the bija's are primarily associated > with the Shakti tradition of Goddess worship. Although it is not > always so...for example the bija for Sudarshana (Vishnu's > chakra/weapon) is "Hoom Paat" and is associated with the first > Shankara (adi shankara). Hoong Phat or Hum Phat (Ph being an aspirated "p") > This mantra used under the right conditions > by a trained individual has considerable power. Yes, it does. > > > I might also mention that the bija mantras are usually found in > conjuntion with longer mantras for the specific dieties. The longer > mantras called moola mantras (foundation mantras) are commonly used in > all the pujas and yagyas that a priest would typically receive > training in. A mula mantra is the "root" mantra, the more common name for the long "chain" of mantra is a "dharani". If you receive a full transmission of the mantra, you will receive the "seed" and how the dharani unfolds from it to reveal the mandala of the deity. > So my assumption is that MMY would have learned them in the context of > his stay in Guru Dev's ashram where they would all chant them as a > part of their daily routine. The ones he gave us as teachers are a small piece of all the bijas, but infer (as you mentioned already) a shakta source--although one can find them in numerous tantras. They are not Vedic. If one receives the highest transmission of mantra, one automatically receives ALL of them into their mindstream. > The amazing thing to me, is that these bija mantras are so powerful > that westerners could be trained to impart them and that they would > work so powerfully. Certainly the power does not come from us and so > someone (presumably Guru Dev) empowered them, trained MMY in their use > and when they were passed along to us, somehow retained their power. I seriously doubt that Guru Dev ever trained Mahesh in their use or their transmission. Not only would he have to break tradition to do so, he would also violate "natural law" and his own vows. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
