1) What, exactly, are the pundits supposed to be paid, beyond room and board?
2) As long as the young students are old enough to be practicing the sidhis, 
and have 
been trained in whatever it is they're supposed to be doing, I don't see why 
its any big deal 
that they're youngsters.
3) It's impossible to prove any scientific theory. The best you can hope for is 
corraborating 
evidence. It's very difficult to conduct large-scale studies on something like 
this anyway, 
and while I'm reasonably certain that there is a 'file folder effect" 
[carefully filing away 
studies that don't find an effect, rather than publishing them], that doesn't 
mean that 
there isn't an effect. And what does "human cognition" have to do with the 
Maharishi 
Effect?
4) What the heck are you talking about?
5) I'm sorry if farting and people drinking water drove people away. On my 
sidhis course 
20ish years ago, we definitely noted that swamp gas might be the main 
ingredient for 
getting off the ground during Yogic Flying, and I've always tried to do my 
farting before 
starting my program but sometimes it doesn't work that way.
6) Again, not sure what you're talking about: I managed to practice TM while in 
USAF basic 
training, which is certainly not a place conducive to respect or to sitting for 
any length of 
time with your eyes closed. Certainly, its harder to make time to practice 
meditation if 
society doesn't respect the practice, but Maharishi Mahesh Yogi almost 
single-handedly 
changed Western attitudes about meditation, IMHO, so I think whatever blockages 
you're 
finding towards maintaining regular practice are due to internal issues, not 
external ones.
7) as to whether or not meditation or group Yogic Flying or whatever 
program-du-jour 
Maharishi is calling for can have an effect on the rest of the world...

Who can say? But I still don't see where this "mutual respect" issue comes in. 
If the pundits 
are doing their thing and it has an effect, then it has an effect whether or 
not you're 
getting the respect you think that you deserve.

If you're not, then go someplace where you do. What else can I say?

--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm not convinced that the pundits are slaves, and I fail to see how the 
> Maharishi Effect 
can 
> be denounced as something not worth achieving because there's no mutual 
> respect 
> involved in the process.
> 
> ----There are no groups of trained pundits because they are not paid. What 
> groups of 
pundits might exist are, as has been ascertained through eye witnesses, groups 
of young 
pundits who don't question people's decisions. See or fail to see. Imagine what 
you like. 
> 
> ----The Maharishi effect has not been proven because the Movement relys on 
pseudoscience.  All notions of some coherence effect based on superconductivity 
and 
entropy apply to closed systems and human consciousness is not a closed system, 
therefore no coherence or entropy can be predicted. If anything, human 
cognition is more 
sporadic than the weather. Sem proves this with a punctuation.
> 
> ----Finally, respect has much to do with why the Fairfield community has 
> ceased to 
grow. Lack of respect for one another by the Movement lead to people leaving 
and 
therefore coherence, as if, has declined. 
> 
> 
> There's no mutual respect involved in practicing TM, either. It seems to me 
> that the 
> process under which the alleged ME operates is completely different than 
> things like 
> "mutual respect" and the like.
> 
> ----From a TM dynamics there is the mutual respect of inward and outward 
> 'strokes.' 
The supression of one or the other os which would prevent the 'effortlessness' 
of the 
technique. 
> 
> ----One can't have the peace to sit still if no mutual respepct is 
> considered. People 
uncapping hot water bottle all through the Domes or farting uncessantly was a 
lack of 
respect that made people stay away. Respect is at the heart of all things. In 
fact, 
transcendence itself could be called the respect of the awareness. Support of 
nature could 
be called mutual respect for that respect given.  
> 
> ----Damn Lawson, you made me forget what I meant in the first place by this 
> post, and 
that was this, that without mutual respect of society, one can't even self 
reflect because no 
condition will support it. Previously in the world people were burned and 
tortured for 
merely having a different thought much less for practicing a whole sitting 
meditating 
technique. Even now kids with the propensity towards spiritual practice are 
considered 
psycho and given drugs. 
> 
> ----What there is no proof of is how peace of mind and freedom from war can 
> be had 
without mutual respect. Meditation or not.
> 
> -----
> 
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