<<
> How Rick would know that the Movement has produced enlightened 
people 
> and how claudiouk would know that it hasn't are both unprovable 
> statements.
> 
> So, why bother to make these statements in the first place?
> 
> Both positions are equivalent to saying that unless you accept Jesus 
> Christ as your personal lord and saviour that you will burn in hell 
> for all eternity.>>>


Right on.

> <<So, why bother to make these statements in the first place?>>

Because FFL is not a region known for its adherence to reason, logic, 
or credible evidence.






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