on 5/19/05 6:44 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 5/19/05 4:05 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> I personally feel now that individual enlightenment in this > lifetime >>> is beyond me, and that it is rather improbable that genuine seekers >>> in other traditions are wasting their time, as assumed within the >>> Movement. Moreover I am even more convinced, thanks to FFL, that >>> MMY's Movement is now imploding catastrophically, as it seems like >>> dead wood infested with vermin. But if it manages to create world >>> peace in spite of it all - what the hell! That WOULD be a success!! >> >> Whatever happens to the movement, it has been a success in producing > many >> enlightened people (which refutes your first sentence). > > How Rick would know that the Movement has produced enlightened people > and how claudiouk would know that it hasn't are both unprovable > statements. > > So, why bother to make these statements in the first place? > > Both positions are equivalent to saying that unless you accept Jesus > Christ as your personal lord and saviour that you will burn in hell > for all eternity.
I don't know if I would go that far. I'm not attached to anyone believing what I said above. It's my opinion based on my observations. If other people believe otherwise based on theirs, it's fine by me. I agree that it can't be proven. It can't be proven whether anyone in the world is enlightened or not. We're talking about a subjective experience. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
