> > > > I personally feel now that individual enlightenment in this 
> > > > lifetime is beyond me...
> > Saddest statement I've seen yet here.
> > Unc
> 
> Sad indeed - but realistic and strangely "liberating". 

I think "liberating" would be the effect of not spending
much time thinking about enlightenment or pursuing it as
The goal of life.  Without exception, all of the people
I know who have had periods of enlightenment (lasting
anywhere from weeks to months) feel that way about it
now that the experience has faded.  Their first realiz-
ation was unanimously, "This is nothing new...this has
been here all along."  So what's to miss if the realiz-
ation fades?

But not believing that enlightenment -- which is already
always present in all of us -- is not *possible* in this
lifetime?  That strikes me as a little different.

Unc

P.S.  Of all the people I know who had these extended
flashes of CC, without exception they all have said that
if you'd asked them the day before the experience began
how far they were from enlightenment, they would've 
laughed at the idea of being "close" and said, "Probably 
about as far as I was when I started meditating."  Inter-
estingly, for each of them those words of denial turned 
out to be literally true.






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