A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers 
build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths successfully, 
for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they did, 
because I was there. It is very sad if MMY do not appreciate what 
they did.

Ingegerd

--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> measure. 
> 
> snip 
> > Maharishi often made it clear that he didn't like the hangers-on. 
> > Trouble was, he needed someone to help; hard-working as he was, 
he 
> > simply couldn't do it all. So the hangers-on eventually morphed 
into 
> > his rather loony organization which tries to shape things in its 
own 
> > warped image of how things should be.
> > 
> > It must be very sad for Maharishi to have such vision and to have 
to 
> > depend upon such blindness. 
> 
> But it was the hangers-on in the 60s and 70s who gave MMY the
> practical help he needed to start and spread the mov't.  Not just 
the
> practical common sense information needed to start an operation, but
> eventually also the 7 steps method of teaching, the scientific
> research, the competent local operation of so many centers in the 
70s
> which brought so many people and resources into the mov't.  I'm 
amazed
> at the extent and quality of support MMY had, esp in the 70s.  
> 
> It was MMY who personally took the mov't into hard sell of 
supernormal
> abilities, the innumerable failed businesses - sidhalands, drilling
> for oil in texas, fashion dresses, crumbling hotels galore, etc etc
> and then the hard sell of the various branches of vedas, which once
> again went well as long as Chopra was around, but is going nowhere 
as
> long as MMY's hand picked fanatics are in charge, and now everything
> under the sun in India, including used cars and fake currency.
> 
> I agree with many other posts on this topic that MMY hit the jackpot
> with effortless meditation using bij mantras, but most everything 
else
> of value in the mov't over the years seems to me to have come from 
the
> enormous support and talent he received from the west, and most of 
the
> nuttiness and cultishness from him and his hand picked and 
cultivated
> inner circle.




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