On May 22, 2005, at 10:05 AM, t3rinity wrote: > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ram is a fire mantra? > > Rick, Ram, with short 'a' is indeed a fire-mantra and is in the center > of the Manipura chakra, which is not the second as Vaj says, but the > third chakra.
I never attributed it to a chakra and honestly you are incorrect, because it depends which chakra system you are using. Different systems will reverse these two centers, depending on their intent. This is a very important point! > So Vaj is confusing these two mantras. No I am not. I indicated there were TWO mantras. The only way to know for sure is to have the actual mantric character itself or an authentic transliteration. I also gave a modern example of parallel movements where the fire mantra is specifically used. > I think Vaj is confusing here Hindu teachings > with Buddhist teachings. No I am specifically referring to Hindu teaching in the context to which you refer, specifically yoga-darshana and samkhya. > In Buddhist teachings such techniques as Mahamudra (or Dzochen or > Maha-Ati respectively) are regarded as highest meditation techniques. > The principles of these techniques are very similar to TM, in that > they don't allow for effort or any attempt to modify ones > consciousness. As someone trained in all the series of Ati-yoga (Dzogchen) I can tell you there is no similarity to TM. The primary similarity in Buddhism would be to shinay (shine). > Consciousness is always perfect and aware of itself, > and it should not be attempted to be altered according to Dzogchen. > Dzogchen does not rely on props like a mantra, but relies on the > energy transmission of the 'true view' by a Dzogchen master. Dzogchen does not rely on an energy transmission. > I think the problem with Vaj is that he mixes too many traditions and > makes his own theory out of it. He also confuses the description of > Samadhi states in the Yogasutras, such as Bijasamadhi with techniques > to acquire it. Its nonsense to say that Bijamantras lead to > Bijasamadhi. It's nowhere said in any scripture. This is an incorrect, unbased assumption. I rely of oral and experiential instructions of Patanjali from line holders. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
