---: Viewpoint(below) contradicts the opinions of some great Sages like Ramakrishna and Buddhists in the Pure Land School. There is no rule written in stone that Enlightened people "must" relinquish all subtle bodies. A majority opinion seems to point to one's choice. Enlightened people can do what they want: retain some body, or not; or even incarnate on the physical plane of existence again (as stated by Ramakrishna)...Enlightened people have desires like others (at least some). The fulfillment of those desires may require some type of body; at least to appear to others.
> ---To me enlightenment means realization of the Soul. The soul is > the energy that animates the body, and the mind, and the emotions, > and the ego; everything eminates from the soul. > And, when Atma or soul is experienced in pure consciousness, then we > become familiar with the experience of the soul. > As far as letting everything go, in order to become enlightened; > it's true, you must let everything go... > It's like death, to become enlightened... > ego death, nothing left of the ego, which is meaningful. > and all that is left, is the soul. > just like death... > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hyperbolicgeometry" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---Right! As a matter of fact, Ramakrishna Himself predicted a > > future incarnation of his own, (I believe 200 years after his > death) > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > ---The assertion that enlightenment results in the cessation of > the > > > expereince of self and that then means the end of futher > expereince > > of > > > the relative with the death of the body is far from being > > universally > > > agreed upon by individuals who have been acknowledged > > as "enlightened" > > > eg "The Great Swan:Meetings with Ramakrishna" p156 "Individual > > > souls evolve naturally toward the full awareness of their > intrinisic > > > perfection,their infinite nature.After merging conciously with > the > > > Only Reality,souls may chose to shine forth again as concious > rays > > > of that Reality,during this or FUTURE incarnations(emphasis > mine)". > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Jeff Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What happens to the individual when he drops his > > > > > body after attaining > > > > > enlightenment? One unbounded ocean of consciousness > > > > > in motion? > > > > > > > > Nothing can happen to an enlightened individual after > > > > dropping the body because there is no individual for > > > > anything to happen to. You are understanding > > > > enlightenment in terms of waking state. Enlightenment > > > > can not be understood from waking state. Waking state > > > > assume there is an "I" that stuff happens to. That > > > > just is not true anymore in enlightenment. Yea, I > > > > know, it makes no sense to the mind, but then > > > > enlightenment has nothing to do with mind other than > > > > squashing it. > > > > -Squashed like bug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site > > > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
