Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

[Llundrub]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who suggested a new movement. Most others who participated in the discussion said they had no desire to join another movement. I didn't really mean it though, though I thought it would be great to have non-movement residence courses with interesting side studies. For instance people could be in residence for a couple weeks and learn Rudrabhiseka under a Swami invited to to teach. Wouldn't that be cool? Learn how to pacify the eleven rudras oneself? and round? Or people could learn marma therapy or do a huge mantra accumulation and fire homam, or anything anything at all. I just wanted to get people thinking of the possibilities that they could indulge themselves in when throwing off the dummy it down for westerners mentality of the official TMO.   ----- Original Message ----- From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers SCI is not required to *learn* TM. And, unless the planis to never teach TM to the masses again ever, it seems well, at least as egotistical as everyone seems to be claiming MMY is, to be talking about setting up a large-scale rival TM organization. Chopra's organization has no chance of "teaching the masses" on the scale that the TMO has done, and still can do, and yet, you guys think you can do as well as, or better than chopra, and somehow do as well as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 25, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > Much of the impetus behind independent TM > > teaching comes from making the knowledge > > available at more affordable prices. But I'm > > curious how people who've been following the > > discussions here would handle other aspects > > of the teaching that might be a bit more problematic. > > > > For example, we typically say the mantra is a > > meaningless sound. Would you all stick with > > that description? Or would some of you disclose > > the provenance of mantras? > > > > Another issue: We say on the third night of > > checking that cosmic consciousness is a state > > in which one's every act is spontaneously life- > > supporting. But a popular topic among us has > > been the questioning of that dogma. What would > > you say? Would you just skip that part of the teaching? > > > > And if we start fiddling with the teaching, are we > > teaching TM, or something inspired by it? > > > > The larger subtext: does knowledge really get lost? > > This is a really good question. > > This is the question I was addressing when I talked the other day about > the upside of the pundits. It will really be these guys who will > preserve the true tradition. Unless people take the time to train > themselves in the texts behind this tradition, they would be clueless. > Why? Because when you were taught SCI you were not given the source for > these teaching.  Nor were you given the source behind many of the > advanced lectures. The science of the gap, the sandi, is all in > Sanskrit. In other words, the real tradition has been hidden behind a > facade of scientific materialism and dispensed. The only real option is > to bootleg the SCI tapes and the advanced lectures, etc. > > And how will you train new teachers without all of the video and audio > tapes? > > Another issue is who will teach the advanced techniques? > > The very real upside of the pundits--even if it ends up being only half > of the number stated--the upside is they have the full knowledge of the > tradition AND the practices. So it's a good thing that they are > learning what they are learning. The karma-kanda aspect of M.'s > teaching really is only preserved by Brahmins--and that represents a > significant part since what he teaches is essentially karma yoga for > householders. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.