--- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > on 5/29/05 7:08 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "lupidus108" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> It is obviously less of a challenge to be devoted to someone 
> > who is
> > > > no 
> > > >> longer in the body, and who no longer stretch ones vision of 
> > reality
> > > > or 
> > > >> challenges your beliefsystem, or test your devotion big time.
> > > > 
> > > > I must respectfully say that you are operating from 
> conjecture, 
> > not
> > > > direct experience. Those devoted to Guru Dev are challenged 
> just 
> > as
> > > > strongly as those following Maharishi. The goals are just as 
> > clearly
> > > > defined, as are the challenges (to belief systems and 
> devotion).
> > > 
> > > And for most people, Maharishi is nearly as abstract as Guru 
> Dev. 
> > Sure, one
> > > sees his tapes and read his writings a lot more, but there's 
> still 
> > plenty of
> > > room for disconnect between the man as he is and one's critical 
> or 
> > idealized
> > > conceptions of him, as evidenced by TM-Ex on the one hand and 
> > Briganteism on
> > > the other.>>>
> > 
> > 
> > Rick you are a lost yogi. Have you ever heard Maharishi or Amma 
or 
> > any great guru make statements like this about another person? 
> > Even if it were true ( and its not, it is stupid made-up 
malicious 
> > lies), an enlightened person would not take any interest in it.>>
> 
> 
> I mean't the other thing he said.
> (Can I remove messages if I make a mistake?

No, you must be perfect at all times, as our Guru in Holland is 
Perfect...





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