The discussion has been on "no me". My experience, and interpretation of it, my take, is that there is no "volitional I". There is apparatus that does stuff, here, now, but it all happens as innocently as thoughts come.
The discussion has not dwelt (as far as I can seean I have not read all the posts) on the natural extension of "no I". That is, where there is no volitional "I" here, that means, and becomes an experience that there is no volitional "you" over there. Or any volitional "that" in that tree. Or that star. Its all happening, here and there, as effortlessly as thoughts arise. Hollow and empty is how one person describes it, and that is apt in my view. Though sometimes I mistype and say hallow and empty, which is also a reasonable metaphor. Though I would add the word "reflective." Hollow, hallow, empty and reflective. FWIW, this ties to, for me, Tom and Jim' discussion of is it "everything in side of Me, or splattering ME over the canvas of the universe". My observation is that many people, from, and often in, childhood experience a commonality of all people or things. It's a common thing I think. It may grow sharper, or more expansive over ones life. It may come and go or grow to be always there. And/or one interprets the experience in a more elegant way. But at least dome glimpse of that is common, IMO And these are not imaginations, fantasies, intellectualizations, or speculations. They are an experience, though, more abstract than perception through the senses. For example, from a common Joe, not some high faluting yogi with lots of attainments, states, levels, labels or lineage, another description of the experience, -- or perhaps its an alterntive experience -- is that the commonality is experienced like a well, that feeds every person, rock, plant and star. Its, metaphorically, both a well of a most refined liquid and light. And in being hollow and empty and reflective, all these "hallows and empties" everywhere, in everything, reflect the light. The well can be bubbling, glowing in the background, or with attention, it can further reflectively, "light up" further "inside" locally, and in everything. Like a child paying and fascinated by a dimmer light switch, slowly making it brighter of softer though in this case by attention. Its not light in a visual sense, but light is a passable metaphor of my interpretation of it. And "ME" has always seemed a strained description or metaphor. More apt would be "we", but that still implies many and doesn't feel like that. The well is one. To equate this Oneness Well with this localized apparatus -- which in common language is called "me", doesn't fit my experience (and that is not the possessive form of "me", its the elsewhere form of me). But this experience may be different from others. I am quite open that this is a misinterpretation of the experience, some cognitive mis-filtering, or a delusion, but it is the experience. (And I am sure there is a drug than can subdue these apparent hallucinations).
