--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:35 AM, BillyG. wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote: > > > > > > > 3. Speaking about Kundalini and explaining " it is said to be at the > > > >base of the spine", > > > > > > I believe this statement is from MMY's lecture on Kundalini, as such I > > > think you make an interesting point, is MMY functioning from Aham > > > Brahmasmi? and does it matter? > > > > "If the guru cannot give the pupil bhagadadarshana (sight of God) or > > aatmaGYaana (self-knowledge) and continually avails himself of his > > [students] wealth, then certainly he will gain ghora naraka (horrible > > hell)." > > > > -Swami Brahmananda Saraswati > > I think MMY would qualify as he has given me atma-jnana or knowledge > (thru experience) of the Adhyatma (underlying soul), as such I have > become (thanks to MMY) a *knower of Reality*. > > SBS is talking about charlatans, one may not like MMY's methods but > that does not make him a charlatan.
Indeed, BillyG. Based on my own experience I fully agree with you on what Maharishi has given. Vaj's comments are not based on his experience with TM. As far as I know, he hasn't been initiated by a qualified TM teacher. He just wants to trash TM. This was his whole agenda when he posted at a.m.t. But no matter what books he's read or what he's practiced, he hasn't really *experienced* for himself the results of the proper effective practise of Transcendental Meditation itself, as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. He may not like Maharishi's ways. Neither do I. But you can't argue with what you experience. It's no longer a matter of debate when you actually *experience* that Reality. That's why I can't really dismiss what Jim Flanegin claims to be experiencing. I may disagree with some of his peripheral commentary, but his whole descriptive rings true on the basis of what I myself have also *experienced* .
