I have a few responses to some statements made below: "If one knows what ice cream tastes like - one doesn't say it is said to taste sweet - this is not the words from knowing directly."
This conclusion may or may not be correct. The use of the word "said" may indicate an idiosynratic use of language by one who does not speak excellent Enlish, or simply one who is speaking colloquially. It also may be a reference to spiritual texts about Kundalini, which also does not imply non-realization of the Shakti. Thirdly, some Masters do not like to point or speak about their own Realilsation of the Divine, for one reason or another, so they distance themselves through referring to something objective such as a text or previous statement. For example, Ramana Maharishi often answered people by quoting what other texts stated about the Self-Realization. I would not conlude Ramana's non-realisation of the Self because of that. "Kundlaini has been felt all over by some, not only in the spine." Yes, I agree. "Kundalini is a process through consciousness that acts as rotor rooter clearing the pathways for unfolding enlightenment and the kundalini journey is complete and over in Realization...." Rotor Rooter is a good analogy - but there is more to the Shakti than its function as purifier. I would like to suggest that even after the Self is established, Kundalini-Shakti still circulates, and for some even radiates as a form of (extremely potent) spiritual transmission. Kundalini, therefore, is not merely a path to establish the Self. It is an actual property of the Absolute or Consciousness Itself through which the Self makes Itself known. Therefore, I feel it is innacurate to insist that it is "over" at a certain point of Realization. For some, it continues to function, quite powerfully and beautifully and spontaneously, as an initiating force (diksha) for others. Namaste, David Spero http://www.davidspero.org
