--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > If you have never had any personal contact with MMY I > > can easily understand why a person would say MMY is > > not Realized. Especially the last decade or so he has > > made many an outrageous comment. So, from a conceptual > > level of evaluating MMY based on his speech and > > behavior he does not meet many people's expectations > > of how a Realized person speaks and behaves. However, > > personal contact with MMY, in my experience, pretty > > much crushes any conceptual edifice regarding > > Realization. His darshan is incredibly powerful and > > triggers deep spiritual experiences. As has been said > > here many times, MMY is an incredible paradox. To > > dismiss MMY as unenlightened is, IMHO, ridiculous > > based on my own personal experience with him. > > And, just to show that things are different > based on who you are and how and what you > choose to perceive, I had (by some standards) > a great deal of personal contact with Maharishi. > And I never considered him enlightened. Never. > Still don't. In my book, his 'darshan' was so > puny (compared to other teachers I've met) > that I would be tempted to describe it as non- > existent. Go figure, eh? > > My experience does not invalidate yours, and > yours does not invalidate mine. But you really > can't write off people who don't think he's > enlightened as just "not having had personal > contact with him." That's not it at all.
And it isn't what he said, either.
