--- In [email protected], "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > > "shanti2218411" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --I had a very powerful expereince of shakti > > > > during my initiation > > > > > (although I had no clue that was what it was at > > > > the time)I have no > > > > > doubt whatsoever that this would not have been the > > > > case had I simply > > > > > started using the mantra from a book(or web > > > > site).Kevin > > > > > > > > Or from an "independent" teacher working against the > > > > will of the source > > > > of the teachings. > > > > > > But lups, how do you know for sure that teaching with > > > puja to Guru Dev, three days checking, the whole nine > > > yards is against the will of the source of the > > > teaching? > >
> I'm not sure what you are driving at, but it is pretty obvious that > if someone breaks off, becomes "independent" and discharges > Maharishis wish to charge 2500$ for instruction, the he/she is > deliberately going against the will of the source of the teaching. > Some fine threads between Maharishi and the initiator is then broken. ************* After the price was raised to $2500, MMY said the following: In the press conference of 14 May 2003, Maharishi said that he did not care if TM teachers taught the practice outside of the TM bureaucracy: "What I have taught, because it has it's eternal authenticity in the vedic literature and you should know that, how many? 30 - 40 thousand teachers of TM I have trained and many of them have gone on their own and they may not call it Maharishi's TM but they are teaching it in some different name here and there. So there's a lot of these, artificial things are going on, doesn't matter, as long as the man is getting something useful to make his life better, we are satisfied." I see this whole recert thing as being TM administrator-driven, not driven by TM's founder: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#recerts Either way, it really doesn't make much difference whether a handful of teachers teach TM on their own (and it will never amount to more than a handful) -- the future of the TM movement is in India, and a shell of a movement in the West is OK until India happens: "As Indian national consciousness rises in coherence -- which is the basis of invincibility for the nation�then world consciousness will rise in coherence �which is the basis of permanent world peace...One sun rises, but its innumerable rays spread light everywhere...So it's natural for the influence of coherence to spread from India to the whole world." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
