--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the idea that it is all the student when it comes to darshan,
> but for a different reason than MMY. I think it is an innate human
> capacity probably from our primate culture of dominance.  
<snip>
> It was a useful part of our programming when we had to spot the 
leader
> of our troupe quickly, but it is a quality of human nature that 
modern
> humans need to keep an eye on IMO.
> 
If I change our need to spot the dominant member of the apes, to our 
need to feel good, what you have said here also applies to drinking or 
doing drugs. If it is all just a self serving feel good fest to be 
enjoyed in moderation, why bother with a guru at all? Go get 
your 'guru' in a six pack at the 7-11. There's nothing in what you 
said to convince anyone there is any higher purpose served by a 
Guru...and that says more about your post, than your post does.:-)

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