--- In [email protected], "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Certainly the mindset (of the darshan receiver) and the setting are 
> factors which provide a fertile ground for the experience of a 
> purported saint's darshan.  Most interesting to me would be the 
> occassion in which the darshan came from an unexpected source, i.e., 
> one that neither the darshan receiver anticipated and was in no 
> other 
> way elevated or singled out from the background as a 'possible' or 
> anticipatory source; in other words, not someone on stage or sitting 
> elevated on a dias, or behind a microphone covered in garlands, etc.  
> This would be the unprepossesing, humble saint type of darshan -- 
> illumination radiating from someone shining bright in his or her own 
> effulgence.  Has anyone ever experienced anything like that?

I've had many such experiences, and they all 
contributed to the way I phrased my post on
this subject earlier. In terms of "unexpected
darshan" in the presence of objects, my strong-
est experience of this was at a museum in Albu-
qurque, New Mexico. There was an exhibit of
Tibetan art there, and for some reason I'd been
putting off checking it out, thinking, "How good
could an exhibition of Tibetan art be in *Albu-
querque*, ferchrissakes.

Boy, was I wrong. It turns out that the show was
curated by the most famous curator of Tibetan art
on the planet. He had retired a few years earlier,
but was coaxed out of retirement to do this show,
with the challenge, "Do something you've never 
done before." So he mounted a show of objects that
had never been displayed in public before. All were
from private collections, and had been for decades,
in some cases hundreds of years.

But I didn't know any of this. I was just taking
some woman friend of a friend to the Albuquerque
airport as a favor. I hate to say this, but 1) she
talked incessantly, and 2) she had nothing to say
when she talked. And I was stuck with her during
this trip to the museum. Suffice it to say that I
was *not* in a mood-making mood or had "set myself
up" for any kind of spiritual experience.

But ten feet inside the door of the museum and it
hit me like a ton of bricks. I literally had to
find a bench and sit down, the silence and light
were that intense. And I wasn't the only one to
notice. I'd see "straight" tourists stand in front
of a centuries-old lapis lazuli Buddha and go weak
in the knees and have to be supported by their 
spouses. They just didn't know what was happening
to them. *Very* powerful experience, and as you
say, completely unexpected.

During the times I studied with the Rama guy, I 
had quite a few instances of "unexpected darshan"
with him. One night I was waiting in line for a 
movie in Westwood with my girlfriend and suddenly
everything "went gold." It stopped both of us in
our tracks and in our conversation. The light had
gotten "lively" and we both felt a profound shift
in our states of attention. We were talking about
it when Rama snuck up behind us and poked me in
the side and said, "Gotcha." He was like that.  :-)

Lots of similar experiences in places of power that
I didn't *know* were places of power beforehand. 
I'd just go there out of curiosity and find myself
settling into meditative or clear-witnessing states.

Is that the sort of thing you were asking about?




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