--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin"
<jflanegi@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all "aspirants" and
he
> > is the
> > > > > "enlightened teacher". Step right up, step right up...
> > > > >
> > > > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when
> > > > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > >
> > > Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher"
and "aspirant"
> > as
> > > > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is
> > easier to
> > > > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I
> > enjoy,
> > > > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of
> > events in
> > > > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong
> > emotion.
> > > > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those
words.
> > DS
> > > > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> > >
> > > So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior
enlightened
> > > status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil
can
> > help
> > > me with? That is super news for me!
> > >
> > Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its
someone
> > calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med
school,
> > and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they
did
> > self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has
been an
> > achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are
> > either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them,
> > considered "superior" as a result? And why not just recognize
them
> > for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with
that.:-)
> >
>
> David: "Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching
> enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority
or
> superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS"
>
> Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much
more
> enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all). If you pay
> attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness
through
> recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of
> enlightendenessinment. (That is unless your own psychological
sunburn
> doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as
> living a state of less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you
know
> like an MD, so what's the problem?)
>
> Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own
> level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it
unenlightenmenedness?
> Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I
> wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
>
Huh? I still don't get where you are coming from. If you don't
recognize enlightenment or self realization as valid states, then
just say so. end of story. I am not putting you down or feeling
superior to you, so who else is?:-)
