-Right, those are the principles of karma and Dharma. What the term "unfathomable" refers to is not general principles, which meditators seem to intuit (Cf. statements of Charlie Lutes to that effect) after some degree of experience, but the ACTUAL chain of causations pointing to certain events, whether involving the principles of karma, Dharma, or reincarnation. Thus, even great Sages fall short of describing such vast, unfathomable chains of cause and effect; since one would have to have virtually infinite knowledge of relative events to come to any definitive conclusions on karma. No Sage has given a demonstration as to such relative knowledge. True, Absolute knowledge, or "Gnosis", but as to the actual workings of karmic events, no. We have this on Krishna's word.
-- In [email protected], Bronte Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mathabrahman wrote: > > Everything's perfect, including the desire to make things better. > Here, we could run into a genuine paradox; but we're dealing with > karma and Dharma, areas which are innately unfathomable. > Therefore, even Sages may fall short of expertise on the topic of > what's perfect and what's not in relative existence. > > Bronte writes: > > Hi, Mathabrahman. I'd like to discuss karma and dharma with you sometime. In my opinion, the "unfathomability" of these things is just more Hindu gobbledygook. When the mind is freed from the clutter of Eastern assumptions, it is easy to understand both karma and dharma quite clearly. > > Karma is caused and held in place by an attitude of the mind. When the attitude holding circumstances in place gets changed, things start to shift in outer reality, and "karma" suddenly changes. Mind is supreme, not karma. Mind is the basic stuff of the universe -- it precedes events. The Indians would have us believe the opposite: that outer events have greater power than individual mind. The purpose of that dogma is just more disempowerment, more surrender of the hopelessness of relative life to the "beneficent" gods masquerading as Oneness. Change the attitude, and you change the karma -- both in the sense of karma as action and karma as reaction. The world reacts to us differently when we vibrate to a different thought. Mind has authority over karma. > > Dharma is also no biggie. Dharma is the path of action a person needs to tread, and the map for that is quietly written in each human heart. Dharma is only hard to discern when an individual is looking to outer authority for her direction. When the eye turns inward, to the knowingness within, a person gets all the guidance they need. Intuition develops, a sense of what's right and true in particular situations. With greater interior attention, clearer direction develops. Dharma becomes a shining path into one's future. > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. >
