Well, in my path, could be one goes through hell first, even more so with certain conditionings coming in such as this- could be- and here it is in my brochure just for you. With that preface, I extend an invitation to you, and maybe it is hell anyway, it is venturing into the unknown and you are not going to get any promises here of enlightenment.
At best, what can be said is one will move along from where they are. Since this is the kundalini path, what is burried will come to the surface quickly. It may be a very difficult journey and usually it is before enlightenment. And yes, as Ramana pointed out, without a Guru, it is a very rare thing that one reaches enlightenment. All of the above that I have written is not as nearly attractive as organizations that sugar coat the delivery, complete with anything from crowns and limosines, with rolled out red carpets to avatars born in a rare family with golden hair. Bottom line in response to your opinion with the dude with the sales pitch is the product will never be much appeal to you or like kind but this is known in advance. The other side to it is my path is not meant to be a big thing. If you would like to write a book picking apart all the faults and reasons why people should stay away, there will be a great welcoming and wishing you good luck with the book. Disciples coming present a tremendous burden of responsibility to my guru, and as has been stated no disciples is the preference. Hridaya Puri FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote: > > > > **Here is one excerpt from my gurus writtings: > > > > As Ramana melted within Arunachala > > obedient and surrendered and never did > > he leave his Guru's side. He came amidst all > > obstacles and Surrendered to it's wisdom > > as Shiva. He stayed once home without ever > > a thought of leaving. > > Ron, > > As sweet as you seem to be, and as inspired as > you obviously are by your new path, this is all > starting to get really repetitive and tiresome > and well, somebody's got to say so. > > You seem to get a bit compulsive with your post- > ing whenever anyone around here suggests that > one doesn't "need" a "guru". You launch into post > after post after post after post telling us what > "my guru" and Ramana and any other authority > figure you can think of says about such things. > > Give it a rest already. > > The person who "needs" a guru is YOU, dude. You > can't say two sentences without invoking the holy > words "My guru says..." in front of some sentence. > And frankly, if you are the *product* of "finding > a guru," I want nothing to do with it. > > I kinda prefer having my *own* thoughts, and > being able to answer someone's questions with my > *own* words, and making my *own* decisions about > my life and my path through it. > > "Your guru" has, as far as I can tell, turned you > into a Class-A wuss who is now terrified to think > for himself. You really *can't* do anything but > repeat her words ad nauseum to other people, seem- > ingly hoping to convince them to join you on the > Path Of Being Unable To Think For Oneself. > > I honestly don't think you're going to find very > many "takers" for this sales spiel here. All we > have to do to measure its worth is watch how > distraught and defensive you get whenever anyone > suggests that someone may have realized their > enlightenment *without* a guru, or that someone > is even doing well without a guru. Dude, to be > honest, that says more about *your* needs than > it does any universal "need" for a guru. > > You've been sold a bill of goods. You've been > told that you "need" someone's guidance to find > who you really are, and who you always already > have been all your life. > > You post here about how Maharishi couldn't poss- > ibly be enlightened because he feels "restricted" > if he's not safely inside a S-V building. Well, > dude, it really seems to me that you feel awfully > restricted unless you're safely inside the aura > of some guru telling you what to do and what to > think at all times. > > If that gets you off, more power to you and I > wish you well on your Way. But I don't think it's > going to lead you where you think it will. I've > watched your language over the last few months > become *more and more* dependent on your guru, > and *less and less* able to express anything that > sounds like someone I'd like to get to know. Much > less buy anything from. > > So don't *sell* so hard, man. In the world of > spiritual teaching, the "brochure" one uses to > sell with is *oneself* -- how one thinks and acts > and speaks. Your "brochure" consistently shows > someone who has almost entirely lost the ability > to think for himself, and who has been reduced > to prefacing almost everything he says with, "My > guru says..." While I understand that you may see > this as a positive thing, I'm not sure that you > understand that others here may not see it that > way. > > Whatever. Continue doing your thing, and being > a missionary for your guru, if that gets you off. > But y'know...if after a few more months or years > of this you find that the savages you're preaching > to haven't been flocking to buy what you're selling, > you might give some thought to reworking the sales > brochure. >
