--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > "Yes, the rudrabhisek is a yagya for peace"
> > 
> > Seems like we have been in a phase transition for over 30 years 
> and 
> > we don't seem anywhere near "peace". Either this works or it 
> doesn't. 
> > I don't see evidence that it does work. Aren't you and others just 
> > making excuses based on a very questionable theory?
> > 
> > Shiva is appeased by both devas and asuras.
> > 
> I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I just read your words, and 
> you're like, c'mon guys! its taken 30 whole years to transform every 
> element of the world, and I don't see any clear evidence yet!!! I 
> don't see it-- what's taking so damned long?...
> 
> Pretty funny actually, when you consider that even global warming 
> for goodness sake took almost two hundred years to begin 
> manifesting, and here we are 30 short years into a far more profound 
> transformation, and you're already yelping, "where's the beef!?". 
> Relax...:-)


The idea of a shift in the consciousness of humanity has been around
for decades. It has been the essential central thesis of 'New Age'
literature all along. To attribute the actual changes only to
Maharishi's efforts is more than silly, in my view. At best,
Maharishi's movement is a part of, a manifestation of, the much larger
phenomenon.

And, for goodness' sake, the expression that the TM programs bring
cohesion to outer functioning systems, befuddles the mind. The TMO,
itself, is one of the most consistently, ineptly run organizations
I've ever seen in my life. Such claims of 'cohesion' remind me of
Orwell's 'love is hate, war is peace and ignorance is strength.'

I find that my TM experience reflects almost the *opposite* of what I
see manifest in the TMO - and I have a VERY difficult time with your
[Jim Flanegin's] easy acceptance of it all as just peachy keen just
how it is. It seems acceptable only on the cosmic level of accepting
that the bullshit we see in the world is also peachy keen when viewed
as "perfect just how it is." But that idea is contrary to actually
doing anything about the bullshit. 

Sure, you can become 'part' of the bullshit - and then perhaps you no
longer see any difference, eh?






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