--- In [email protected], "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, the guru is only a guide and it has been stated here that one must walk the path > alone ultimately. This is no way means that while one is with the Guru, the evolution is not in > full force until one is walking the path on their own but just the opposite. > > From that well known verse- "Be still and know that I am God" > > Genuine gurus guide the disciple for none other than this and not in some distant far off time > but now. > > A guru is the same as the disciple except the maya is no longer there. The Guru guides one > to remove this maya, but leaves the disciple to live thier life, make their own choices and then > reap the consequences of these choices. > > > Hridaya
Very very true, In Sant Mat, they believe that once you are merely initiated the Guru automatically burns off all your 'Sanchita' (accumulated) karma. This sounds ridiculous to me, yes, Christ burned off some of his immediate disciples karma and supposedly some of the group karma of the world but surely not everyone's and he suffered in the body as a result. I never see Sant Rajinder Singh ever suffer, especially since he supposedly is taking on the karma of thousands of initiates merely for the asking, preposterous! Do I see a carrot on a stick anyone? Another goofey thing they believe is that there is only one Sat Guru on the planet at a time, and of course he (guru de jour) is it.....ha! Another goofey thing is you'll never fall below the man-body again and you'll be enlightened in a few lifetimes, I guess you don't even have to do anything, I mean since it's automatic!!?
