--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There was some discussion a while back about Joni Mitchell & lyrics  
> to "Refuge of the Road." She captures very nicely the description 
of  
> the state called in Tibetan, rigpa tsel wang, the transmission of 
the  
> state of enlightenment, where the state of enlightenment is 
directly  
> passed on to the student. In Joni's case, it lasted several days 
the  
> first time, which is quite good--although not surprising coming 
from  
> a Mahasiddha like Trungpa. 

Wow! a whole *72 hours* of enlightenment!!! yippee!...about as long as 
it used to last for me on any run-of-the-mill residence course...yeah 
that Trungpa is some kind of great teacher all right..."mahasiddha" 
you say? wow! 72 whole hours...mmmmm...a day more than a weekend pass 
to Disneyland. Yep, that's some special teacher all right. And a rare 
event you say?...depends on your expectations I guess. 

Seriously, I read that, with the article written, and you acting, Vaj, 
like this is some kind of rare, fragile, wonderfully special spiritual 
event to gush over. It is nothing in today's terms. Just about zip, 
nada, nothing. 

Maybe when enlightenment was just being introduced to the West this 3 
days of feeling without an "I" was a big deal, but now in my opinion 
it is time to grow up, and move on. If you are still starry-eyed over 
a continuous 3 days of enlightenment, please try a different 
technique, or dare to dream a little more, please.:-) 

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